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  • daspag
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 35

    bore scratches...

    I was cleaning my RIA 1911A1 recently and noticed when looking through the barrel there were a few scratches concentrated on one side of the bore. They don't appear to be too deep- mainly hairline scratches, nor did seem to affect the accuracy last time I was out at the range.

    This is the first time I have ever noticed scratches in the bore on ANY pistol I've owned. Any reason to be concerned?
  • #2
    Mr310
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2011
    • 5692

    Can you put up a photo or three?
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    • #3
      CK_32
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      • Sep 2010
      • 14369

      You sure they are just scratches and not cracks?

      I've never really looked that hard or don't think I could to all my dam barrels being so shiny when I look through them. But your probably just freaking of nothing.
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      • #4
        daspag
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 35

        Originally posted by Mr310
        Can you put up a photo or three?
        This is the best pic I could pull off at this time. You will notice the scratches on the left side of the bore. As I stated earlier, the gun doesn't seem to suffer any in performance. I'm not sure if this could be a sign of the issues to come...

        Last edited by daspag; 10-20-2012, 8:40 AM.

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        • #5
          meaty-btz
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2010
          • 8980

          Those appear to be cracks, not scratches.
          ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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          • #6
            daspag
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 35

            Originally posted by meaty-btz
            Those appear to be cracks, not scratches.
            The lighting is a bit deceiving, it gives off a far worse appearance then if you were to look down the barrel in person. I do a fair share of metal fabrication for my business and I'm pretty confident these are only surface scratches- not cracks. I'm just not to educated in gun smithing to know why it's happening or if it's considered normal wear...

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            • #7
              Vampyredark
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 502

              YO! I was watching some videos on the Hoppes web page about cleaning guns a long time ago. According to what they state, those are scratches from using a brass bore brush and not following through all the way till the brush is completely out of the other end. So, if you use a brass brush and only go half way inside the barrel then pull it out, it will get those scratches. However, if you use a nylon brush, they state that will not happen.

              go figure.....

              Have you not completely pushed the brush all the way through?

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              • #8
                mvpatriot
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 2178

                brass brushes dont do that to my barrels

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                • #9
                  Jet Setter
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 5348

                  I might agree with Vamp. Looks like scratches from bore brushes/rod. Might be time to change your brush and rod just in case.
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                  • #10
                    Vampyredark
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 502

                    I dont notice any scratches in my barrels; I use both nylon and brass - whatever I grab first in my tackle box. But, I only push it through about three times. I dont over do it.

                    I would consider switching to nylon.

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                    • #11
                      Press Check
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 4879

                      For my 1911, I used a brass Dewey rod, and nylon bore brushes exclusively.

                      If those aren't fractures, I would grab some J-B Bore Bright (finishing compound), and go to work on those areas to relieve the scratches.

                      I got some from the Angeles Reloading Store:

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                      • #12
                        ClarenceBoddicker
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2783

                        A brass brush can't scratch a steel barrel. Even a stainless steel brush takes a lot of work to scratch a barrel. If you are worried you can have a auto machine shop magnaflux the outside of the barrel where the scratches are. From the pics shown they do look like cracks to me.

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                        • #13
                          meaty-btz
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 8980

                          Originally posted by daspag
                          The lighting is a bit deceiving, it gives off a far worse appearance then if you were to look down the barrel in person. I do a fair share of metal fabrication for my business and I'm pretty confident these are only surface scratches- not cracks. I'm just not to educated in gun smithing to know why it's happening or if it's considered normal wear...
                          I have never seen "scratches" in a pattern like that before. Ever. The lighting might be deceiving me but I see a flaw line ragged like how a metal fracture should be and it even crosses from groove up on to the land. A Brass brush is not capable of damaging steel in that fashion.

                          The only time I have seen anything similar to that is when a bullet became lodged in the barrel and then was removed but the pressure was not enough to actually bulge the barrel, you ended up with small stress cracks on the inside of the barrel and no marks outside. The stress fractures were not 360 degrees and only appeared where the barrel metallurgy was weaker allowing more stretch during the event.

                          If they are scratches then the barrel is fine, but something "steel" caused those. When did you first notice the scratches? How many rounds have been through that barrel?
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                          • #14
                            curtru
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1278

                            Mine looks similar to that didn't think much about it but iv been thinking about calling armscore in nv cuz it dose throw off the accuracy over 25 yards

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                            • #15
                              meaty-btz
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 8980

                              Originally posted by curtru
                              Mine looks similar to that didn't think much about it but iv been thinking about calling armscore in nv cuz it dose throw off the accuracy over 25 yards
                              How?
                              ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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