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  • Dirty Monkey
    Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 285

    Ruger Super blackhawk questions

    Well i have a Ruger SBH 7 1/2 .44 magnum, This is my first revolver ever, never shot one before. So anyways, I've been getting stinged by bullet fragments. I'm using LAX reloads. The last one cut me on my nose. Another time, my friend that was standing behind me, got some on his wrist. Is this normal? does it have to do with the cylinder timing?
  • #2
    44fred
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 2399

    Sounds like timing. I'm having a tough time understanding fragments blowing that far back. Usually blows to side. Going back to Ruger yes?
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    • #3
      JTROKS
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      • Nov 2007
      • 13093

      Were you using jacketed bullets or Lead?
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      • #4
        Dirty Monkey
        Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 285

        I was using jacketed bullets, and when the fragment hit my face. I found the copper jacketing fragment.

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        • #5
          Squid
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 1041

          lack of quality control for basic issues from even respected big name

          gun makers never ceases to amaze me.

          Is it that they can't find any guys who want to play with(test) new guns?

          Do these gun makers need more adult supervision, like from Obama and Holder, and be required to label their "new" guns as "kits requiring further work from the purchaser".

          Do gun makers need to be required to do certain government mandated tests before shipping, like putting more than one round through, and even rounds of the most common types, and checking for things like frags?

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          • #6
            Dirty Monkey
            Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 285

            The gun is also from 1970ish. i used hot loads before and regular loads. It could just be from the LAX reload, i had a couple of rounds with to much copper jacketing.

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            • #7
              Jeepergeo
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 3506

              Stop shooting it and get it to a gunsmith (since it is an older gun) before someone gets hurt. Something is not functioning correctly.
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              • #8
                Squid
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 1041

                Oh, older revolver. I'd heard of one doing that after it was smacked hard in closing

                car door, or that is what they figured it must have been.

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                • #9
                  wtkaiser
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 660

                  Hey ease up, guys. It's a 40 year old gun, with some apparent hard use behind it. It's hardly Ruger's fault that this is happening. Just get it back to them pronto before anybody get's seriously hurt.

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                  • #10
                    -hanko
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 14174

                    I'd try shooting it with a factory load and see if she still spits crap...

                    Failing that, have a qualified gunsmith check endshake and cylinder gap and timing. I would also check cylinder bore diameters v. bullet diameters.

                    Lots of info by googling "ruger blackhawk cylinder clearance"

                    hth

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                    • #11
                      bwiese
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 27621

                      I'd bet the spitting lead is rebounding off the sidewalls of the range booth, and that if
                      you were shooting outside it'd not be (as) noticeable [but still indicating a problem or
                      even dangerous condition.]

                      DO NOT SHOOT THIS GUN UNTIL IT'S BEEN SEEN BY A SMITH.

                      Still, this is a timing issue. I'd bet someone did a lot of cylinder spinning in its past and when
                      the cylinder stopped the full mass of it was stopped by the little cylinder stop that pops up from
                      the bottom of the frame in cylinder window and which engages the notches on the cylinder.
                      [These latter notches could also be worn as well, but the cylinder stop is the first part that should
                      be replaced, along with validation that this action gets it back in "proper time".] Cylinder notches
                      worn? Perhaps a good smith could uniform them somehow, or just get a new cylinder and install it.

                      This could also occur because someone replaced a cylinder somehow. Ruger does not like to sell
                      cylinders to non-gunsmiths due to folks not checking timing (or being able to fix it if off). I believe
                      Ruger SA cylinders for dual-cylinder guns (45Colt+45ACP, 357+9mm, etc.) have the last 3 digits
                      of the serial# marked on one of the cylinder faces - perhaps all "cylinders sold with a gun" actually
                      are so marked - see if the cylinder has these digits and see if it matches with those of the gun's
                      serial#.
                      Last edited by bwiese; 10-09-2012, 10:54 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Dirty Monkey
                        Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 285

                        Does anyone know a good gunsmith around Orange county, like anaheim area.

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                        • #13
                          bob7122
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                          • Jul 2010
                          • 5090

                          Originally posted by Dirty Monkey
                          Does anyone know a good gunsmith around Orange county, like anaheim area.
                          bolsa gunsmithing.
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                          • #14
                            pyromensch
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 6881

                            you seem to be saying that the LAX reloads, are the only ones doing this. if so, you might take a micrometer, and check the bullets diameter, vs, other rounds that you have shot. if not, follow the other suggestions.
                            That may be a CG first!



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                            • #15
                              pyromensch
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6881

                              you seem to be saying that the LAX reloads, are the only ones doing this. if so, you might take a micrometer, and check the bullets diameter, vs, other rounds that you have shot. if not, follow the other suggestions.
                              That may be a CG first!



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