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  • neomentat
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 1404

    can I sue Turners?

    I'm thinking about making some waves against Turners, for my latest PPT transfer @ Pasadena Turners they forced me to buy the blue lock although my gun came with one and gave me all that Federal Law crap talk as usual. But when I picked up the gun they did not give me the freaking lock I paid for. This is the THIRD time that they charged me for a lock and didn't give it to me when I picked up my firearm.

    By their own statement that "it is illegal by federal law for them to let me walk out of the store with a gun without buying one of their CA approved locks" didn't they just violate this same law they push on everyone when they failed to give me the lock, 3 times.

    And if their whole talk of the Federal Law is indeed a real federal law, then why the hell does it have to be a California approved lock? Wouldn't a California Approved anything be state law? Seems like a contraction when they use CA law lock requirement (if there even is one) to enforce a Federal Law requiring a lock to sell their cheap made in China blue gun locks.

    I want to report Turners to some authority and get them in trouble for failing to give me these stupid locks I paid for. Or maybe sue them, I had a ton of bad experiences at Turners & I would love to see them go out of business.
    Last edited by neomentat; 02-14-2008, 12:37 PM.
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    U2BassAce
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1677

    How do you walk out 3 seperate times without your lock you paid for?

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    • #3
      Soldier415
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2007
      • 9537

      Originally posted by U2BassAce
      How do you walk out 3 seperate times without your lock you paid for?

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      • #4
        gunsnrovers
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1766

        If you bought a lock you would have a receipt. Why are you leaving the store without the goods you paid for?
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        • #5
          hawk1
          In Memoriam
          • Dec 2005
          • 7555

          Yeah, I have to agree. If they forced that lock on you then there is no way in hell you should have walked out without it. Then to do it 3 times?

          To answer your question though, anyone can sue. Just figure out if it is a small claims sized judgement you want or Superior court sized.
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          • #6
            Sumo99
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 781

            Seems like a lot of trouble over a $5 lock. Even if they did give you the lock, would you actually use it? Just stop going to Turner's, there are better gun stores out there.

            Why not buy a DOJ approved gun safe? Keep the receipt and you will never have to spend $5 again for the cable lock.

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            • #7
              aplinker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2007
              • 16762

              Not true. For handguns it doesn't matter. The way the Federal law is written they need a receipt for the lock when it's a handgun, no safe gets them out of it.

              Keep in mind, what covers their *** is the receipt. They can show they sold you a lock. There's a paper trail.


              Originally posted by Sumo99
              Seems like a lot of trouble over a $5 lock. Even if they did give you the lock, would you actually use it? Just stop going to Turner's, there are better gun stores out there.

              Why not buy a DOJ approved gun safe? Keep the receipt and you will never have to spend $5 again for the cable lock.

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              • #8
                StraightShooter
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 2189

                I thought all you had to was sign a safe afidavit? My dad didnt have to buy a lock when he purchased a handgun last time.
                Last edited by StraightShooter; 02-14-2008, 1:15 PM. Reason: i suck at spelling

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                • #9
                  dondo
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1887

                  Originally posted by uclaplinker
                  Not true. For handguns it doesn't matter. The way the Federal law is written they need a receipt for the lock when it's a handgun, no safe gets them out of it.

                  Keep in mind, what covers their *** is the receipt. They can show they sold you a lock. There's a paper trail.
                  Thats funny, the past 3 PPT handgun purchases I have made the safe affadavit worked. Just my personal experience. Cheers.

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                  • #10
                    FallingDown
                    Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 435

                    Originally posted by Sumo99
                    Seems like a lot of trouble over a $5 lock. Even if they did give you the lock, would you actually use it? Just stop going to Turner's, there are better gun stores out there.

                    Why not buy a DOJ approved gun safe? Keep the receipt and you will never have to spend $5 again for the cable lock.

                    Usually $15 for me, damn bay area inflated prices.
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                    • #11
                      Maddog5150
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 10526

                      I have a question. Did you go back and ask them about the lock? They may have forgotten to give it to you and shame on them for the mistake but did you go back and ask for it?
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                      • #12
                        PressCheck
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1488

                        Safe affadavit has ALWAYS worked for me.
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                        • #13
                          Paratus et Vigilans
                          In Memoriam
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1510

                          Originally posted by dondo
                          Thats funny, the past 3 PPT handgun purchases I have made the safe affadavit worked. Just my personal experience. Cheers.
                          Someone is behind the times. Hope it doesn't come back to bite 'em in the ***.

                          Has anyone you know EVER made use of a single one of the cheapo approved gunlocks we are forced to buy? I never have, and don't know anyone who ever has. I lock up the case on a new pistol for the ride home (I bring one of my many little combo padlocks with me for that express purpose), and from that point on it either lives in my gunsafe or gets transported to be shot in one of the locking compartments of my range bag. I have an ammo can FULL of unused cheapo "mandatory" gun locks in their original packaging. What a waste of time and resources!

                          EDIT Just noticed you said PPT's - - I don't think the mandatory gunlock applies to PPT's, but I'm not sure about that - - my last PPT handgun was before things changed. Oops! Sorry!
                          Last edited by Paratus et Vigilans; 02-14-2008, 1:26 PM.
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                          • #14
                            FallingDown
                            Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 435

                            May'be you should consider buying a lock the day of or day before, bring the receipt with you and show it to them the next time you go (if there is a next time) that way you take the X factor out of the equation.
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                            • #15
                              elroy
                              Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 192

                              if you've had a ton of bad exp. then why keep buying guns there? your tag says orange county , so go to ade's .. youd feel pretty stupid in court suing over 3 5$ locks , i'm sure you're time is worth more than that , you're not gonna put them out of buisness , the judge would laugh at you b4 throwin yer *** out of his court , some stores excel in cust service and knowledge , others have blow out prices , rarely do the 2 exist together

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