It seems too easy

[halfflash]

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[M. D. Van Norman]

Heller

[elSquid]

I know this has been gone over, but it still doesn't make sense to me. It seems like circumventing the carry laws is too easy.

Unloaded and in a locked container is too easy? Really?

If so, how are people expected to transport a handgun from their home to a range? Teleportation?

-- Michael

[luckyduck]

Yeah I don't understand the logic in this topic. What's easy about any of this?

Sure if we had to use a Star Trek particle transporter to get our gun anywhere, that would be hard.

[CK_32]

Not sure if this is cement law but my cousin has a CCW and got in a car accident not too long ago and had his Glock in his glove box. He was dazed and told the cops all his info was in the glove compartment not thinking about having his gun in there to.

They opened it up and pulled the side arms out and he still didn't get what was going on. Luckily my his wife just pulled up and yelled what they were doing and they finally got to explain he had a CCW.. But for some odd reason he's still going to court about it and it's this huge delema because I guess part of the CCW is you must notify them that you carry for that exact reason..


Not sure about all the details but it's all worked out finally and was actually like a 5 moths court process about it. So even if you are legally required it will be a head ache. So I personally even before all that would notify them I have guns in the car if I did. Only after they asked or said were searching the car..


Which has happened and it was a huge thing of them snickering about how illegal my AR was and them just going by FUD but one gun savvy officer said he knows we're good and said just wait and well be let go and left telling me and friends nice looking guns..

Had 2 of us pulled over going to work from a friends house wih SWAT and about 6 police cars because we had a cleaning party at one friends house and a included over cop was casing a house down the street and saw all of us bringing fun cases into the house...

And that lead to us bein pulled over when trying to leave the neighborhood and having SWAT and the LEO there.. Huge head ache but ended well due to just being respectful and calm.

[DRAB_81]

You need to go back and read the PC again. IIRC, the only time you can legally carry LUCC is on your way to a lawful use of the firearm (as in going to the range). Heading to the office or grocery store does not lead to a lawful use of the firearm, making LUCC illegal in that context.

[unusedusername]

You need to go back and read the PC again. IIRC, the only time you can legally carry LUCC is on your way to a lawful use of the firearm (as in going to the range). Heading to the office or grocery store does not lead to a lawful use of the firearm, making LUCC illegal in that context.

Sort of. When carrying on foot, the location requirements apply with a general catch-all of "directly to or from any motor vehicle" Note that a bus, a train, and car are all motor vehicles, and it does not say you are required to enter or own the vehicle.

In the car you can transport "for any lawful purpose", and last time I checked anyways, getting groceries was still lawful. There is no requirement that the lawful purpose involve the firearm being transported.

[JMP]

You forgot one thing. You will need to ask the badguy for a timeout, so you can unlock your gun and load it.

[DRAB_81]

Sort of. When carrying on foot, the location requirements apply with a general catch-all of "directly to or from any motor vehicle" Note that a bus, a train, and car are all motor vehicles, and it does not say you are required to enter or own the vehicle.

In the car you can transport a firearm "for any lawful purpose" of that firearm, and last time I checked anyways, getting groceries while carrying a firearm without an LTC was still illegal. There is no requirement that the lawful purpose involve the firearm being transported.

I fixed it for you, and yes it does specify that the purpose involves the firearm being transported. Why would they even bother having a PC if it had nothing to do with the firearm? So you believe the PC just says that you can carry LUCC as long as you're not on your way to murder/rob/rape someone etc?

[Rorge Retson]

You forgot one thing. You will need to ask the badguy for a timeout, so you can unlock your gun and load it.

This.

[1000stars]

The whole point of a CCW is to have a loaded gun on your person ready to go.

Anything less than that is not circumventing CCW.

[Librarian]

I fixed it for you, and yes it does specify that the purpose involves the firearm being transported. Why would they even bother having a PC if it had nothing to do with the firearm? So you believe the PC just says that you can carry LUCC as long as you're not on your way to murder/rob/rape someone etc?

In a vehicle, yes, that's exactly what PC 25610 says. Legal to transport locked, unloaded, anyplace where firearms are not prohibited.

LUCC? Makes my teeth itch; I won't do it, myself.

[halfflash]

I didn't mean that it was easy to carry. But it's a fairly simple way of carrying a firearm with out having a CCW.
Obviously if I were confronted at knife point, it's still too far awy. But if I were on the street and not being shot at directly, hopefully there would be time to pull it out, unlock, load, and then be protected.

[ZombieTactics]

The OP's post is understandable in the context that many have been socially conditioned to "seek permission" for any activity they might imagine to be questionable.

We don't require permission to do anything which is not illegal. There are no "loopholes", in any case where something is not expressly prohibited by law. It's not even "following the law", so much as not breaking the law at all in the first place.

[lordres]

I was under the impression that carrying a loaded weapon was a misdemeanor. Was I wrong?