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  • #31
    DeltaBishop
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 30

    Originally posted by unusedusername
    If they won't let you put a laser on a carry gun, then why would they let you change the sights?

    It is the same thing, isn't it?

    Both of these requirements are not codified in law, so perhaps you should post about it in the LTC forum and help the right people to fix it.
    Seems the only laser that would work in a CC situation are activated by the grips - if you're needing to turn on a laser with a switch - that's not a good thing. Grips must be "standard" according to the application from the Sherriff while sights can be "fixed or adjustable." According to an instructor, lasers were illegal for CCW in CA - but he never cited a Code.

    My understanding is that any site that fits the gun as designed by the manufacturer would be fine.

    Maybe I am taking the instructor's statement as fact when I shouldn't be... I suppose I'm too new to know.

    Whats the "LTC Forum"?

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    • #32
      Legasat
      Intergalactic Member
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Mar 2009
      • 4151

      I wear glasses with "progressive" lenses. They are ground so that they gradually progress from near sighted to far sighted (reading at the bottom of the lens, distance at the top of the lens, no lines).

      I had a special pair made just for shooting, with the lenses ground from polycarbonate (safety lens material that meets the ANSI Z87.1-2003 standard). I had them made so the focus point is for about 3 ft. I'm sure if work with your Ophthalmologist or Optometrist, you can find a workable solution.
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      • #33
        Hopalong
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 2436

        You need trifocals.

        Yeah, I don't like it either.

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        • #34
          becxltoo984
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 657

          XS big dot sights are designed for quick sight acquisition at the expense of accuracy . I know this all to well after buy two set's for my Glock 19 And 23 .

          What the manufacture wont tell you about these sights . once installed to adjust or remove the sights for any gunsmith work - will in fact destroy them . The sur-lok 1262 solution used' to install the sights require heat to melt the bound between the slide and the sight . That much heat kills the tritium vial . Not making this up . I contacted their support and that's the answer I received .

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          • #35
            leadstorm
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 1191

            XS big dot sights are designed for quick sight acquisition at the expense of accuracy
            You are correct and we agree on this point. You have to ask yourself what you're after, though. The OP is looking for sights for a defensive carry gun.

            I have had several pistols with "traditional" three-dot Trijicon night sights. They do not line up incredibly quickly in the dark. In the daytime, the notch-and-posts are great for precision shooting, but it takes a bit of time between shots to realign properly.

            The Big Dots are very reflexive. They certianly won't chew one ragged hole, but they will (at least for me) put all the bullets within the center portion of the torso very, very rapidly and very intuitively.

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            • #36
              psango
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2009
              • 1303

              sights and close combat

              +1 on the big dot or fiber optic sights.

              In a SD However, I would be pointing shooting without sights at distances less than 15 yards. At 15 yard the the big dot or fiber front sight would be a major help to me, at 25 yards my back is turned and I'm running away. (I moved all my armor panels to the back of my vest, just kidding).

              My vision went bad in my 40's I was able to make it to retirement with my try-focal lenses. You do have to adjust tactics for your own requirements. As Harry would say "man has to know his limitations".

              With my vision I often thought I would be better off shooting myself if I lost my glasses. I'm retired now so no longer caring for duty, just ccw.
              Always remember to pillage before you burn.

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              • #37
                myusername
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 82

                Get a Judge. Problem solved.

                Oh, yeah, I forgot, it's California... sigh.

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                • #38
                  fcr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 971

                  I have the exact same issue, lost my up close after corrective surgery. I finally decided on the Trijicon HD over the XS, It seems more accurate for me. Thats just punching paper. I like the rear sight design better for my purpose too.

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                  • #39
                    Vinnie
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 796

                    Ghostring Rear sight worked for me...

                    This helped me in a big way:



                    Had a piece of 1/4" pipe cut and welded into a drilled out standard sight on my CZ-75D Compact (PCR). That, with a bright fiber front made all the difference in the world. A person's brain naturally wants to keep the red dot in the center of the circle. So, if you see your target through the ring when you pull the trigger, odds are your round landed in the right place.

                    Set-up provides me with fast target acquisition and good enough accuracy out to about 30 or 40 feet.

                    Vinnie



                    ps - every person who has fired this gun expressed a similar reaction.. that it was easy to keep on target

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                    Last edited by Vinnie; 09-06-2012, 12:07 AM. Reason: typo

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                    • #40
                      DeltaBishop
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 30

                      Originally posted by Vinnie
                      This helped me in a big way:



                      Had a piece of 1/4" pipe cut and welded into a drilled out standard sight on my CZ-75D Compact (PCR). That, with a bright fiber front made all the difference in the world. A person's brain naturally wants to keep the red dot in the center of the circle. So, if you see your target through the ring when you pull the trigger, odds are your round landed in the right place.

                      Set-up provides me with fast target acquisition and good enough accuracy out to about 30 or 40 feet.

                      Vinnie



                      ps - every person who has fired this gun expressed a similar reaction.. that it was easy to keep on target

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                      Vinnie - I'm printing this out and taking it to the shop to see if they can do something like this. I've been reading more about ghost rings and it seems intuitive for fast acquisition and a decent aim in situations like mine.

                      I AM going to look at no-line tri-focals though - even though it kills me to admit I need them. Uhg...

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                      • #41
                        DeltaBishop
                        Junior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 30

                        Originally posted by psango
                        +1 on the big dot or fiber optic sights.

                        In a SD However, I would be pointing shooting without sights at distances less than 15 yards. At 15 yard the the big dot or fiber front sight would be a major help to me, at 25 yards my back is turned and I'm running away. (I moved all my armor panels to the back of my vest, just kidding).
                        My vision went bad in my 40's I was able to make it to retirement with my try-focal lenses. You do have to adjust tactics for your own requirements. As Harry would say "man has to know his limitations".

                        With my vision I often thought I would be better off shooting myself if I lost my glasses. I'm retired now so no longer caring for duty, just ccw.
                        That made me laugh...

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                        • #42
                          voiceofreason
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 3785

                          Google Hexsite

                          You look THROUGH them

                          I've never used them

                          An older trainer I trust recommends them for older /poor eyesight
                          "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
                          John Quincy Adams

                          "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
                          voiceofreason

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                          • #43
                            voiceofreason
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 3785

                            Fiber optics fall out BTW
                            "You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
                            John Quincy Adams

                            "You will never know how little my generation has traded away our freedoms and rights for. I'm sorry and ashamed for what we've left to the following generations."
                            voiceofreason

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                            • #44
                              DeltaBishop
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 30

                              Originally posted by voiceofreason
                              Google Hexsite

                              You look THROUGH them

                              I've never used them

                              An older trainer I trust recommends them for older /poor eyesight
                              Looks like a ghost ring - but better! The hexagonal ring design naturally and intuitively seems to help you find the "precise center." Makes sense - and they make it for my Kahr.

                              Thanks.

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                              • #45
                                Lead Waster
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 16650

                                Although it's best to be able to focus on the front sight...YOU MUST ABSOLUTELY SEE YOUR TARGET CLEARLY!

                                Why? Because that thing that looks like a bad guy coming right at you with a machete is actually my Aunt Bertha holding an umbrella.

                                Oh, and what's that behind the target? I dunno, it's some kind of blur, maybe a fire hydrant? Wrong! It's a baby in a stroller!

                                Seriously, don't be shooting at blurs.
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