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  • Maton
    Member
    • May 2007
    • 350

    HELP!!! I KEEP SLAMMING THE TRIGGER

    Well pretty much I keep slamming the trigger on my HK P2000, and its affecting my scores. I want to know if there are any tips/dryfire exercises, etc that can keep me from slamming the damn trigger? thanks guys!!!
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    762cavalier
    NRA Training Counselor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2005
    • 3626

    practice in your living room with a snap cap. Place a dime on the muzzle and work on trigger control while keeping the dime from moving or falling off. Keep practicing until muscle memory improves.
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    • #3
      eaglemike
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2008
      • 3938

      Are you focusing - absolutely focusing - on the front sight? Focus on it as you press the trigger. Keep the front sight still, and on target. Imagine you are focusing so close you can see a fly's footprints on it. If you stay focused, this will also help you train yourself to control the trigger press.

      Think "front sight, follow through!" It's more important than most people realize to follow through with the sight alignment and focus on the front sight.

      all the best,

      Mike
      There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

      It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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      • #4
        M. Sage
        Moderator Emeritus
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jul 2006
        • 19759

        A little different, but in a good way:



        Originally posted by Deadbolt
        "We're here to take your land for your safety"

        "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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        • #5
          Bobula
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2007
          • 9385

          Originally posted by 762cavalier
          practice in your living room with a snap cap. Place a dime on the muzzle and work on trigger control while keeping the dime from moving or falling off. Keep practicing until muscle memory improves.
          excellent advice
          Originally posted by Kestryll
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          Fascist pig....

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          • #6
            aplinker
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            • Feb 2007
            • 16762

            Dry firing helps a lot.

            If you have a revolver do flinch drills, too -- put a couple rounds in with a bunch of spent casings, twirl and shoot. You won't know when they're coming. Even better, have a buddy load it and not tell you.

            Dry fire a lot. Focusing on not moving at all as you squeeze. Remember, every time a round goes off it should be essentially a "surprise."

            I've also done some home shooting drills with airsoft. The lack of recoil keeps you from flinching and slapping.

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            • #7
              Maton
              Member
              • May 2007
              • 350

              im doin the dime trick, the p2000 has a bunch of nasty slack that has to be disposed of quickly. I can do 18 trigger presses before the dime falls off. Im still working on it. Im at the academy working with some retired guys who've been shooting for 40 plus years, im getting better and better. We gotta shoot expert before we go hands on with the trainees, did 360 rounds tuesday and 500 today, well time for some sleep then back to the range. all the best and thanks for the advice.
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              • #8
                ghideon
                Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 403

                I just recommended the dime trick to a friend of a friend who's going through the academy right now, bout two nights ago. He's a new shooter with a pretty bad trigger jerk.

                Dunno much about the P2000, but if it's DA/SA make sure you get some SA work in, too. Or you'll end up like me with my 92FS. DA, no problem. SA, problems.

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                • #9
                  VanLogan
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 59

                  Originally posted by Maton
                  Well pretty much I keep slamming the trigger on my HK P2000, and its affecting my scores. I want to know if there are any tips/dryfire exercises, etc that can keep me from slamming the damn trigger? thanks guys!!!
                  I am a firearms instructor and I deal with this problem all the time. Trigger press is one of the biggest issues with accuracy. Try this:

                  1. Slowly press the trigger with pad of your finger.
                  (Do not hook your whole finger throught the trigger guard)
                  2. It should be a surprise to you when the hammer drops.
                  3. After the hammer drops hold the trigger in pressed position. (Very Important)
                  4. Slowly release the trigger until you feel the "click" (called reset)
                  5. Do not release the trigger any further than this.
                  6. Repeat.

                  The more you do this the faster it will happen. Remember you cant miss fast enough to get a hit.

                  ~VL

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                  • #10
                    liketoshoot
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3810

                    Originally posted by Maton
                    Well pretty much I keep slamming the trigger on my HK P2000, and its affecting my scores. I want to know if there are any tips/dryfire exercises, etc that can keep me from slamming the damn trigger? thanks guys!!!
                    Like they said above dry fire with snap caps, but I added a laser to mine and have a spot on the wall that I use as a focus point and after pulling the trigger I watch to see how far I have traveled from it.
                    click click click click click click............................................. ......
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                    • #11
                      TannerBoyl
                      Member
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 183

                      Originally posted by ghideon
                      Dunno much about the P2000, but if it's DA/SA make sure you get some SA work in, too. Or you'll end up like me with my 92FS. DA, no problem. SA, problems.
                      I agree. I had that same problem with a DA/SA pistol. I did most of my dry firing in DA. That coupled with shooting at a dark indoor range, I developed a pretty bad trigger jerk/flinch.

                      Originally posted by VanLogan
                      I am a firearms instructor and I deal with this problem all the time. Trigger press is one of the biggest issues with accuracy. Try this:

                      1. Slowly press the trigger with pad of your finger.
                      (Do not hook your whole finger throught the trigger guard)
                      2. It should be a surprise to you when the hammer drops.
                      3. After the hammer drops hold the trigger in pressed position. (Very Important)
                      4. Slowly release the trigger until you feel the "click" (called reset)
                      5. Do not release the trigger any further than this.
                      6. Repeat.

                      The more you do this the faster it will happen. Remember you cant miss fast enough to get a hit.

                      ~VL
                      VanLogan's advice is spot on! I actually practice this dry firing by racking the slide in between trigger pull and trigger reset. Just make absolutely sure that the pistol is unloaded (leave the loaded mags and ammo in another room). After a few of hundred SA reset / trigger pulls, you'll notice that the trigger reset becomes second nature.

                      I learned this dry fire technique from Bruce Gray. After practicing it for a few weeks, I went shooting with my brother and really impressed him with how my skills improved!

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                      • #12
                        Black Majik
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 9695

                        You can also do the bump drill I learned from Bruce Gray. The idea is to take up the slack, and slowly "bump" against the sear (without moving your front sight). Repeat, but with a little more pressure on the trigger, repeat again and again until the hammer drops. The fall of the hammer should be a surprise.

                        Key is to do it correctly, and have it be a surprise... and not anticipate when the hammer will fall.

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                        • #13
                          M. Sage
                          Moderator Emeritus
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 19759

                          Originally posted by Black Majik
                          You can also do the bump drill I learned from Bruce Gray. The idea is to take up the slack, and slowly "bump" against the sear (without moving your front sight). Repeat, but with a little more pressure on the trigger, repeat again and again until the hammer drops. The fall of the hammer should be a surprise.

                          Key is to do it correctly, and have it be a surprise... and not anticipate when the hammer will fall.
                          That was one of the videos I posted. It's helped me out a bit.
                          Originally posted by Deadbolt
                          "We're here to take your land for your safety"

                          "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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                          • #14
                            rbgaynor
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 234

                            The links Sage posted are excellent. Both the bump drill and the wall exercise helped me a lot. I find as my eyes age (along with the rest of me) focusing on the front sight requires more effort. The wall exercise makes it easier to see problems with your trigger pull and helps with focusing on the front sight.
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                            • #15
                              Maton
                              Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 350

                              Im getting the hang of it. Well good news we shot another couple hundred rounds and I have improved and got my expert score that I needed. Im not a really bad shot or a super shot but Im doing good enought to shoot expert, yet I still have lots of room to improve. Thanks for that dime trick, and yes the DA/SA action is a whole new world after using berettas for the last 8 years.
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