M&P Shield Vs. LC9

[DRAB_81]

Just to clear any confusion...My Shield was not SSE'd, was bought after it made the CA Roster and I am not a LEO.

Only thing that my shop could be considered guilty of is selling my Shield to me for $30 over MSRP, which happens to alot of items when they first hit the streets in low numbers and high demand.

I hate to break to you, but he's right. I would never have busted your chops about it, nor would I have even asked how you got it, but again he's right. The roster approved model has that gnarly LCI & mag disconnect, the model you have does not. The CA version hasn't even been released yet.

[safewaysecurity]

According to the S&W website, no it's not, but none of my other counterparts that have their Shields have the "rooster comb" either. Who's fault is that?

Look, according to your screenname, your a security guard or rent a cop as I call them...are you going to try and bust us for having as you call it, non compliant Shields? What Safeway do you patrol so that I can avoid that store all together....

Can't you just be happy for the rest of us that got one? No, you have to keep pushing and pushing. Give it a rest man and get the *&^@ off my back about whether or not my Shield is fricken legal or not...OK!!!

I bought it fair and square...do I have to show you my reciept???

To the contrary I'm actually happy for you. I've had a dealer sell a non-roster gun as well. I'm trying to let you know that you were lucky because the version you go is the non-neutered version that is not on the list. The CA DOJ lists this as the approved shield on their site

M&P9 Shield (Blk) SKU 187021 / Stainless Steel; Polymer

This is the model on the S&W site that matches that.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_812066_-1_780153_757781_757781_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

Notice the loaded chamber indicator. I don't know why you're getting mad at me. I'm letting you know that you're lucky and I congratulate you. And I don't work as private security or at safeway, it's just a name lol.

[skosh69]

I hate to break to you, but he's right. I would never have busted your chops about it, nor would I have even asked how you got it, but again he's right. The roster approved model has that gnarly LCI & mag disconnect, the model you have does not. The CA version hasn't even been released yet.

You're right brother and I apologize to my fellow forum members and especially to SafewaySecurity for my rant.

[Jonb.]

The Shield is better than a Ruger?!!? Where's exelscior!?

[sirgiles]

According to the S&W website, no it's not, but none of my other counterparts that have their Shields have the "rooster comb" either. Who's fault is that?

Look, according to your screenname, your a security guard or rent a cop as I call them...are you going to try and bust us for having as you call it, non compliant Shields? What Safeway do you patrol so that I can avoid that store all together....

Can't you just be happy for the rest of us that got one? No, you have to keep pushing and pushing. Give it a rest man and get the *&^@ off my back about whether or not my Shield is fricken legal or not...OK!!!

I bought it fair and square...do I have to show you my reciept???

you call this a rant? it is downright impolite and abusive all because you were ignorant of the list.
kudos to safewaysecurity for tolerating this.

[skosh69]

The Shield is better than a Ruger?!!

Yep...hehehe

[bombadillo]

If you want a bit bigger without a huge cost, go with the Kahr CW9. Its bigger in the grip, 7+1, DAO with a trigger you have to get used to. I LOVE my Kahr and am extremely accurate with it at 35' or so which is what I bought it for, and there are a lot of accessories for it. Anyway, its one you may want to look into.

[viet4lifeOC]

You're right brother and I apologize to my fellow forum members and especially to SafewaySecurity for my rant.

Nice of you to apologize. safewaysecurity was just pointing out his observation...nothing more...nothing less.

[Dragon]

that loaded indicator is lame, but at least the CA version doesnt have a 10 plus # trigger pull like MA. has.

[safewaysecurity]

that loaded indicator is lame, but at least the CA version doesnt have a 10 plus # trigger pull like MA. has.

Yeah, I saw that. How crazy is that?? 10lb trigger pull needed on all new handguns.. imagine if some innocent bystander was shot when you used your gun in self-defense, I feel like the victim would be on solid ground to sue the state for requiring gun companies to equip their guns with ridiculous and unsafe trigger pulls that would result in poorly aimed shots. I think this was partially one of the reasons why so many innocents were shot by police in that NYC shooting a few days ago, I heard the NYPD requires somehting like a 9.5lb trigger pull on their glocks.

[Dragon]

Yeah, I saw that. How crazy is that?? 10lb trigger pull needed on all new handguns.. imagine if some innocent bystander was shot when you used your gun in self-defense, I feel like the victim would be on solid ground to sue the state for requiring gun companies to equip their guns with ridiculous and unsafe trigger pulls that would result in poorly aimed shots. I think this was partially one of the reasons why so many innocents were shot by police in that NYC shooting a few days ago, I heard the NYPD requires somehting like a 9.5lb trigger pull on their glocks.

Its just stupid. 9.5 trigger what joke. Just keep raising the trigger pull till it cant be pulled, that will make it safer.

From what i understand a lighter pull would not have help NYPD , but better training ,and more of it would have.

[safewaysecurity]

Its just stupid. 9.5 trigger what joke. Just keep raising the trigger pull till it cant be pulled, that will make it safer.

From what i understand a lighter pull would not have help NYPD , but better training ,and more of it would have.

Exactly, it was one of the factors. There's no doubt in my mind that if you put 10 random CGers and 10 random NYPD officers together and gave them the same gun that CGers would easily win as far as speed and accuracy is concerned.

[GR8Guns]

I've handled and shot both. In my opinion the stock Shield is far superior to the stock LC9 in terms of trigger control due the difference in pull length and reset. However, I do think the LC9 may be slightly easier to carry concealed.

[skosh69]

you call this a rant? it is downright impolite and abusive all because you were ignorant of the list.
kudos to safewaysecurity for tolerating this.

Excuse me? Ignorant of the list? How so?

[emsalex]

Ignorant is rehashing a non-issue that was already solved.

I don't need to hold a Shield, and I know it's better than my lc9, two front sights fell off, the extractor flew off and hammer catch pin slide half way out. The whole gun is slippery, to big for most pockets and if it's not going in a pocket i would like more grip.

I would never recommend the LC9.