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  • #17
    Sakiri
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 1395

    Originally posted by maresleg
    Okay, I tried to read and understand article two, but... Too convoluted for me. Exactly how are you supposed to transport your firearms to and from the range, home, gunsmith, LGS, and etc??
    In a gun case or box.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o02_s00_i01 was linked, has lockable zippers. At the base of the zipper pull there's little round holes you push together so they meet up and you run a luggage lock through it.



    Hard cases like this can be used as well. This is also lockable.

    You cannot have it just hanging wide open in your hand. You cannot legally stick it in your pocket without a concealed carry permit. It needs to be in a locked container, such as those I linked. It needs to be unloaded(no bullets in it) but you *can* have loaded mags in the bag/box... just not in the gun itself.

    Clarified? And if I missed something I'm sure someone will correct me.
    On the Second Amendment:
    "'Keep' means they're mine, you can't have them. 'Bear' means I've got some on me, and they're loaded."

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    • #18
      delta9
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 1690

      So what do you do when transporting a handgun you just purchased form the gunshop to your home? They don't provide you with a locking case. Is one expected to bring a locking case with them?

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      • #19
        DinoD
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 99

        Sakiri above comment sums it up IMO, but Turners is letting me buy my gun with just a cable lock.

        Like krby says There isn't a strict definition in the law. Just read all the comments on this thread. There's good info on here.

        I read this and my eyeballs are protruding after 15 minutes.

        HANDGUNS Pursuant to California Penal Code section 25610, a United States citizen over 18 years of age who is not prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, may transport by motor vehicle any handgun provided it is unloaded and locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a locked container. Furthermore, the handgun must be carried directly to or from any motor vehicle for any lawful purpose and, while being carried must be contained within a locked container.

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        • #20
          kouye
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 938

          Originally posted by delta9
          So what do you do when transporting a handgun you just purchased form the gunshop to your home? They don't provide you with a locking case. Is one expected to bring a locking case with them?
          The trunk of your car is considered a locking case as long as you can't access it from inside the car.

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          • #21
            DinoD
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 99

            I haven't had a trunk since I had a 69 Chevelle. Since then I've owned nothing but trucks and suv's What's a trunk?

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            • #22
              kouye
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 938

              Originally posted by DinoD
              I haven't had a trunk since I had a 69 Chevelle. Since then I've owned nothing but trucks and suv's What's a trunk?
              That makes me think. What about a locked camper shell, provided you don't have a split rear window? Wouldn't that be a locked container?

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              • #23
                DinoD
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 99

                I read somewhere
                As long as the door on the back is locked, and you don't have a window where you can access the camper shell area from the cab of the truck, the camper area becomes a locked secure container. Maybe call the DOJ ?

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                • #24
                  StormRaven
                  Member
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 133

                  Originally posted by delta9
                  So what do you do when transporting a handgun you just purchased form the gunshop to your home? They don't provide you with a locking case. Is one expected to bring a locking case with them?
                  By California law, a handgun must be provided with a cable lock which they must have in stock to sell you. Or, you can bring your own cable lock with a receipt showing the date you bought it.
                  "There's no such thing as an assault rifle," he said. "These are 'military-style rifles' or 'modern sporting rifles.' "

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                  • #25
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44652

                    Originally posted by StormRaven
                    By California law, a handgun must be provided with a cable lock which they must have in stock to sell you. Or, you can bring your own cable lock with a receipt showing the date you bought it.
                    Yes, that's true.

                    But that lock has no value whatsoever for transport - it isn't a case.

                    If you already have a case, yes, you should bring it and use it when you pick up your new handgun.

                    If you don't have a case, buying one when picking up your new handgun would be a good idea. Or order one while waiting out your 10 days.

                    See the wiki article on transport -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting
                    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                    • #26
                      StormRaven
                      Member
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 133

                      Originally posted by Librarian
                      Yes, that's true.

                      But that lock has no value whatsoever for transport - it isn't a case.
                      Augh. Sorry about that. It was late and I did not finish my thought...

                      I think what I meant to get at was that if you have a cable lock, you could use that and throw it in a paper bag if you want, and that would count. I wouldn't do that to my firearms, but I think, by letter of the law, that would be legal. I may be wrong on this point... when I went to pick up my revolver, I brought along that one case I linked with a little padlock and just slipped it in there and locked it at the counter, so I haven't tried that.

                      Sorry, I'll try to be more awake when I post.
                      "There's no such thing as an assault rifle," he said. "These are 'military-style rifles' or 'modern sporting rifles.' "

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                      • #27
                        keenkeen
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2011
                        • 6782

                        Originally posted by StormRaven
                        Augh. Sorry about that. It was late and I did not finish my thought...

                        I think what I meant to get at was that if you have a cable lock, you could use that and throw it in a paper bag if you want, and that would count. I wouldn't do that to my firearms, but I think, by letter of the law, that would be legal. I may be wrong on this point... when I went to pick up my revolver, I brought along that one case I linked with a little padlock and just slipped it in there and locked it at the counter, so I haven't tried that.

                        Sorry, I'll try to be more awake when I post.
                        Yep, you are wrong on that point...needs to be in a LOCKED case, not have a cable lock thru the action. So, as Librarian stated a cable lock only does not have any value for transport.
                        "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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                        • #28
                          StormRaven
                          Member
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 133

                          Originally posted by keenkeen
                          Yep, you are wrong on that point...needs to be in a LOCKED case, not have a cable lock thru the action. So, as Librarian stated a cable lock only does not have any value for transport.
                          Gotcha. Thanks for setting me straight on that point.
                          "There's no such thing as an assault rifle," he said. "These are 'military-style rifles' or 'modern sporting rifles.' "

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                          • #29
                            someR1
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2932

                            to avoid confusion (with a stupid cop), I would use a regular hard plastic case and lock.
                            "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
                            - George Mason

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                            • #30
                              A-J
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 2582

                              Originally posted by kouye
                              The trunk of your car is considered a locking case as long as you can't access it from inside the car.
                              Bolded part is FUD. Nowhere in the PC does it say that.
                              It was not a threat. It was an exaggerated response to an uncompromising stance. I was taught never to make a threat unless you are prepared to carry it out and I am not a fan of carrying anything. Even watching other people carrying things makes me uncomfortable. Mainly because of the possibility they may ask me to help.

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