HD question

[Flowmini98]

Whats the best way to store loaded xd9 mags for home defense? I of course keep them in the gun and the guns stays in a safe for quick access , but I'm worried what damage can be done to the mag/mag spring if they stay like that for too long?

[XDRoX]

Springs get worn out from use (compressing and decompressing them), not from sitting compressed.

So you don't need to worry about leaving your clips loaded.

Ya I said clip, what you gunna do?

[CK_32]

I personally don't trust loaded mags.. Too many "mags wear mags don't wear" pissing contests happen. But as much as people want to doubt it mags/springs wear out. And I know for a fact mags/springs don't wear sitting on a shelf..

I do keep my 870 loaded or shells right by it due to it taking 10 seconds to load and be ready to go. I've times it and broke it down in another thread vs time to load an AR/handgun mag. But that's my 2 cents.

So in before the pissing contest and frontline commandos and their "expertise" in HD they read somewhere on the net.

[CK_32]

So you don't need to worry about leaving your clips loaded.

Ya I said clip, what you gunna do?

Clips??

Well for one highly doubt your expertise/information if you can't even use the correct terminology for the subject.

[XDRoX]

Clips??

Well for one highly doubt your expertise/information if you can't even use the correct terminology for the subject.

According to the NRA's website (specifically their glossary) you are wrong and I am correct

And for someone that doesn't like to get into pissing contests it appears you're standing into the wind

[XDRoX]

Clips??

Well for one highly doubt your expertise/information if you can't even use the correct terminology for the subject.

Also, if are you saying that springs wear by sitting compressed you're wrong.
Take a physics class at your local JC.

[Distro]

I personally don't trust loaded mags.. Too many "mags wear mags don't wear" pissing contests happen. But as much as people want to doubt it mags/springs wear out. And I know for a fact mags/springs don't wear sitting on a shelf..

I do keep my 870 loaded or shells right by it due to it taking 10 seconds to load and be ready to go. I've times it and broke it down in another thread vs time to load an AR/handgun mag. But that's my 2 cents.

So in before the pissing contest and frontline commandos and their "expertise" in HD they read somewhere on the net.

I leave mine loaded ever since my dad found some loaded mags in his safe for a gun he hadn't owned in 2 years. I shot them out of my gun and they ran perfectly. I'm probably never leaving a magazine loaded that long anyway and since I buy magazines constantly I'll most likely rotate them out anyway so I'm not worried.

It's about the best evidence I'll probably get.

[XDRoX]

To the OP. I have an XD9 4", just like you. I bought it in 2003. It's been loaded with the same clip in it sitting in my nightstand since 2003. Last month I took it out and shot it because I wanted to change the ammo. It shot fine.

Yep I said it again.

[sholling]

Clips??

Well for one highly doubt your expertise/information if you can't even use the correct terminology for the subject.

His terminology may be off but he's right about it being just fine to leave magazines loaded. You can leave them loaded for for years with no significant loss in strength. That's because springs wear though the act of compressing and uncompromising them over and over again thousands of times not through just sitting compressed within their design range. It's not a p-ing contest it's a combination of metallurgy and physics.

OP it's perfectly fine to keep a few loaded mags as long as they aren't accessible by kids. I have 4 loaded mags next to my loaded bedside pistol and a few loaded mags for my Mini-14 and my shotgun is loaded at all times.

[p7m8jg]

I"ve left magazines loaded for years. Never had a problem. In fact, even as a recreational shooter for the past 40 some years I don't think I've ever had a magazine spring "go bad." Leastwise not that I can remember. But then sometimes I have a hard time spelling too....

[AE102]

One loaded mag in the pistol, extra loaded mag sitting by the pistol. Mossberg 500 loaded with 8 rounds, plus 6 more in the side saddle. Both ready to go when SHTF.

Loaded mags don't wear out the springs. Cops have loaded mags in their pistols all the time and how often do they actually use their pistols? Their bellies are the only things that get more loaded and unloaded with donuts

[NytWolf]

According to the NRA's website (specifically their glossary) you are wrong and I am correct

And for someone that doesn't like to get into pissing contests it appears you're standing into the wind

Just curious... have you a link?

[XDRoX]

Just curious... have you a link?

http://www.nraila.org/glossary.aspx

They've changed it a little since the last time I've checked, but I'd still argue that's OK to use by this definition.

I actually say mag. But sometimes I type clip on the forums just to mess with people. I think it's funny people get all high and mighty when they've probably used the term clip once or twice themselves.

I've also seen the term "clip" in more than one gun manufacturer's manual referring to magazine.

The whole topic is silly to me.

CLIP

A device for holding a group of cartridges. Semantic wars have been fought over the word, with some insisting it is not a synonym for "detachable magazine." For 80 years, however, it has been so used by manufacturers and the military. There is no argument that it can also mean a separate device for holding and transferring a group of cartridges to a fixed or detachable magazine or as a device inserted with cartridges into the mechanism of a firearm becoming, in effect, part of that mechanism.

[Flowmini98]

I do keep my 870 with shells in the side saddle as it is fairly quick to load.
As for the XD mags I guess if it really makes me feel better I could always rotate through the loaded mags when I head to the range to be sure they dont sit to long.
Main reason I ask is because MY go to choice is my 870 but my wifes go to is the XD since she is more comfortable and trained with it.

[NytWolf]

http://www.nraila.org/glossary.aspx

They've changed it a little since the last time I've checked, but I'd still argue that's OK to use by this definition.

I actually say mag. But sometimes I type clip on the forums just to mess with people. I think it's funny people get all high and mighty when they've probably used the term clip once or twice themselves.

I've also seen the term "clip" in more than one gun manufacturer's manual referring to magazine.

The whole topic is silly to me.

CLIP

A device for holding a group of cartridges. Semantic wars have been fought over the word, with some insisting it is not a synonym for "detachable magazine." For 80 years, however, it has been so used by manufacturers and the military. There is no argument that it can also mean a separate device for holding and transferring a group of cartridges to a fixed or detachable magazine or as a device inserted with cartridges into the mechanism of a firearm becoming, in effect, part of that mechanism.

Thanks. So they are saying a clip ...

CLIP

A device for holding a group of cartridges. Semantic wars have been fought over the word, with some insisting it is not a synonym for "detachable magazine." For 80 years, however, it has been so used by manufacturers and the military. There is no argument that it can also mean a separate device for holding and transferring a group of cartridges to a fixed or detachable magazine or as a device inserted with cartridges into the mechanism of a firearm becoming, in effect, part of that mechanism.

and a magazine ...

MAGAZINE

A spring-loaded container for cartridges that may be an integral part of the gun`s mechanism or may be detachable. Detachable magazines for the same gun may be offered by the gun`s manufacturer or other manufacturers with various capacities. A gun with a five-shot detachable magazine, for instance, may be fitted with a magazine holding 10, 20, or 50 or more rounds. Box magazines are most commonly located under the receiver with the cartridges stacked vertically. Tube or tubular magazines run through the stock or under the barrel with the cartridges lying horizontally. Drum magazines hold their cartridges in a circular mode. A magazine can also mean a secure storage place for ammunition or explosives.

are interchangeable terms.