Glock "plus" trigger bar questions

[Dionyn]

What is the difference between the Glock "plus" trigger bar and the regular one? I believe that the plus is bent up just a hair more than the stock one.

Would there be any problem with replacing a stock trigger bar with a plus trigger bar? I know that there would probably be risks going from a plus back down to standard due to the firing pin possibly slipping off the bar, but I don't know if there would be any adverse effects going the other way.

Thanks in advance.

[G-forceJunkie]

It is just the angle bent on the end. It gives less mechanical leverage when pulling the trigger, thus the pull is harder. I believe glock lists it at 8 pounds. There is no adverse effect from going from the - to the standard to the + connector. All are factory options. The only caveat is you cannot use the NY trigger springs with the + connectors.

[Dionyn]

It is just the angle bent on the end. It gives less mechanical leverage when pulling the trigger, thus the pull is harder. I believe glock lists it at 8 pounds. There is no adverse effect from going from the - to the standard to the + connector. All are factory options. The only caveat is you cannot use the NY trigger springs with the + connectors.

Thanks for this response, but I was asking about the trigger bar (the bar connected to the trigger itself with the cruciform at the end that also deactivates the firing pin safety plunger). It is the part with the bar which interacts with the connector you are referring to.

Here is a picture I took of the part in question. I hope this clears up what I am referring to.

[G-forceJunkie]

Opps, I missed that. The + trigger bars are taller, bent up more in the back. They are to correct too little trigger bar to firing pin engagement. Some of the earlier 19's need this bar. Any glock that has too little engagement should have this + bar installed. Checking the amount of engagement is a normal check the factory or any Glock Armorer does as part of an inspection. Except for those early 19's, its pretty rare for a glock to need a + trigger bar.

[CK_32]

I believe the + is a slightly more angled bar to add friction and heavier trigger pull.. I use to know all about them when I first got my glock and trigger options. I know there is a (.) (-) (+) and I think one or two more they all have different angles to have a different trigger pull.

Google it I know glock forums have this posted all over with major detail. Where I read up on it all.

[Dionyn]

Thanks, I've been trying to search around about the bar itself for the past month before I finally gave up and posted here and I typically get these three results.

1. I get results about the trigger connector instead of the trigger bar
2. I get "Pre-EF" G19s need a special trigger bar
3. I get "If a gun is older and either fires in bursts or goes full auto, you may need a plus trigger bar"

It's pretty obvious that my google-fu blows when it comes to this one specific issue.

The only reason that I'm making such an effort to figure this out is because it is a Glockworx fulcrum trigger bar. The gun that that specific bar is coming out of is a Gen 2 G23 and I want to put it in a Gen 2 G22. Am I fine to assume that as long as there is enough firing pin engagement and the firing pin releases when the trigger is pulled that I'm okay to use the plus trigger bar in there? The plus trigger bar and the old factory one look the same around the angled area. I was just wondering if it was pretty subtle or if it's typically pretty drastic between the two.

[G-forceJunkie]

Thanks, I've been trying to search around about the bar itself for the past month before I finally gave up and posted here and I typically get these three results.

1. I get results about the trigger connector instead of the trigger bar
2. I get "Pre-EF" G19s need a special trigger bar
3. I get "If a gun is older and either fires in bursts or goes full auto, you may need a plus trigger bar"

Then you need to ask a more specific question. I mean it's not untill your 3rd post that we find out you are trying to swap parts between guns. If you asked" can I swap a + trigger bar from one gun to another" my answers would have been different.

The only reason that I'm making such an effort to figure this out is because it is a Glockworx fulcrum trigger bar. The gun that that specific bar is coming out of is a Gen 2 G23 and I want to put it in a Gen 2 G22. Am I fine to assume that as long as there is enough firing pin engagement and the firing pin releases when the trigger is pulled that I'm okay to use the plus trigger bar in there? The plus trigger bar and the old factory one look the same around the angled area. I was just wondering if it was pretty subtle or if it's typically pretty drastic between the two.

Its very subtle, I don't know how much but I would guess something around .020" of an inch. Anytime you put a trigger in a different gun, you should check the bar to firing pin engagement. Buy one of the cut orange slide covers, or take a stock one and cut the bottom half off. Install it, and now you can see the contact point. You want at lease 2/3 of the end of the trigger bar contacting the firing pin.

[Plisk]

People in here are confusing the trigger bar for the connector. The connector is what has '-', '+' or blank for varying trigger pull weights.

The '+' marked trigger bar was explained in here almost, it's actually for pre-EH serial number Glock 19s only.

[Dionyn]

Then you need to ask a more specific question. I mean it's not untill your 3rd post that we find out you are trying to swap parts between guns. If you asked" can I swap a + trigger bar from one gun to another" my answers would have been different.

Unfortunately this is what happens when you are run ragged on a massive lack of sleep and on a busy schedule recently. It's my fault and I am sorry about that. I'm still very new here and I would much rather be safe and ask such a question as I couldn't find anything via search rather than presuming I know it all and potentially creating an unsafe situation.

When I made the initial post, I thought that when I asked about replacing a standard bar with a plus bar, it should have been enough. I was not planning on swapping parts, I just wanted the bar from the other gun which is going back to the stock configuration. However, I should have included the picture at the get-go because I had a feeling it might have been confused with the connector.

Thank you very much everyone, for all the replies. I will get one of those orange slide covers rather than "assuming" that if the plus bar is bent higher, and the standard bar I am taking out is bent up to a normal height, the plus bar should be fine. However, I'm not going to chance it on an assumption. Much better to test things correctly.

People in here are confusing the trigger bar for the connector. The connector is what has '-', '+' or blank for varying trigger pull weights.

The '+' marked trigger bar was explained in here almost, it's actually for pre-EH serial number Glock 19s only.

I had a feeling I may have gotten that wrong, I remembered it was in that vicinity. Thanks for the correction.