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  • #31
    PolishMike
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 6034

    Almost every single Glock we have had brought in with issues has had an aftermarket guide rod. Every time we put the stock one back in the gun magically works again.
    Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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    • #32
      tbc
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2011
      • 5955

      Any particular issues? Thanks.

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      • #33
        PolishMike
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2007
        • 6034

        Failure to feeds mostly. Some failure to ejects too

        Its a pretty well known issue but people always want blingy ****.

        Just change the rsa every 2500 rounds for Gen 3 and 5000 for Gen 4 and the gun will keep working.
        Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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        • #34
          tbc
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2011
          • 5955

          Originally posted by PolishMike
          ... people always want blingy ****....
          Lol. Very true. Thanks PolishMike.

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          • #35
            INFAMOUS762X39
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1458

            Originally posted by PolishMike
            Just change the rsa every 2500 rounds for Gen 3 and 5000 for Gen 4 and the gun will keep working.
            Thanks for the tip Mike, quick question what's RSA? I am randomly guessing....the extractor? I get my first glock in 23.5Hrs.....

            Should I clean it? or leave it be before firing?
            I know I will run patches of CLP through the barrel though. Any tips would be appreciated.

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            • #36
              Grumpyoldretiredcop
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2008
              • 6437

              Originally posted by dem0critus
              ya i've never seen a shooting game where the characters use anything close to a thumbs forward grip. I dunno why, but I get the idea that most IPSC shooters use thumbs forward for a reason other than that it's in video games, lol.
              One observation that I've made is that thumbs-forward allows more of the heel of the shooter's hand to make contact with the pistol frame/grip. Locking the strong side thumb down with the support side thumb raises the heel of the hand away from the pistol. Don't know if that's the reason or not.

              Something I haven't seen mentioned is the possibility that the OP's thumbs-forward grip may have allowed the support hand thumb, the firing hand thumb, or even both to contact the slide, retarding extraction and causing this malfunction. I have observed this when training shooters, although not often.
              I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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              • #37
                drunktank
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 5461

                Originally posted by Turbinator
                I just mapped out your location, N. Fontucky. Sounds like you're in CA. Not sure how you have "newish factory 15 round mags" with this gun. Suggest you be careful.

                Turby
                Yes, it's Fontana

                I rebuild all my mags after a certain amount of rounds, depending on the firearm. This mag has under 1k and is less than a year old, thus the newish description. Not too worried about being "careful" as they're legal and I even still have the original receipts from the 90's, but I do see your point thanks! I do notice shady people/comments regarding people and their preban claims.

                Still no pics up, but I noticed on our spent brass, about half the rounds have a crease in the brass near where the bullet seats. Not sure if it's my pistol or his causing this. I'll check my brass next week when I go back to the range.
                Still working on taking and posting pics to help describe whats going on.

                Thanks again for all the helpful input.

                WTB used AK MFER.

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                • #38
                  Bill Carson
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3574

                  Originally posted by INFAMOUS762X39
                  Thanks for the tip Mike, quick question what's RSA? I am randomly guessing....the extractor? I get my first glock in 23.5Hrs.....

                  Should I clean it? or leave it be before firing?
                  I know I will run patches of CLP through the barrel though. Any tips would be appreciated.
                  Load n Shoot.

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                  • #39
                    drunktank
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5461

                    Originally posted by Grumpyoldretiredcop

                    Something I haven't seen mentioned is the possibility that the OP's thumbs-forward grip may have allowed the support hand thumb, the firing hand thumb, or even both to contact the slide, retarding extraction and causing this malfunction. I have observed this when training shooters, although not often.
                    Glad you pointed this out. My thumbs were clear of the slide. 9mmepiphany game me some great advice that I tried out. Long story short my thumbs used to press on the slide causing me inconsistency and bad groups. I change my grip and thumbs were very clear of slide. I'm thinking I limp wristed...

                    WTB used AK MFER.

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                    • #40
                      swifty
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 929

                      Originally posted by drunktank
                      ...about half the rounds have a crease in the brass near where the bullet seats.
                      That is probably where the brass impacts the slide during ejection.

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                      • #41
                        HighLander51
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 5144

                        Originally posted by PolishMike
                        Failure to feeds mostly. Some failure to ejects too

                        Its a pretty well known issue but people always want blingy ****.

                        Just change the rsa every 2500 rounds for Gen 3 and 5000 for Gen 4 and the gun will keep working.
                        Change the recoil spring assembly when it quits working, except for a carry gun. I went over 40,000 rounds on a G17 before the spring got weak, by the straight up trigger pull test.

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                        • #42
                          far from tactical
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 1381

                          Originally posted by INFAMOUS762X39
                          Just did a little homework, my results: Federal Champion 9mm is probably the worst choice for Glocks it's very weak ammo. UMC and WWB are bulk/cheap ammo, self explanatory.
                          Go right ahead and buy the expensive 9mm ammo. I haven't had any problems at all with Fed Wwb Or Remington and if you feel that 115gr is a weak load just start shooting with 147gr then

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                          • #43
                            Shenaniguns
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 6158

                            Originally posted by far from tactical
                            Go right ahead and buy the expensive 9mm ammo. I haven't had any problems at all with Fed Wwb Or Remington and if you feel that 115gr is a weak load just start shooting with 147gr then

                            The truth is that some factory 9mm does actually suck and may not run well in certain guns.
                            My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                            • #44
                              Shenaniguns
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 6158

                              Originally posted by INFAMOUS762X39
                              Thanks for the tip Mike, quick question what's RSA? I am randomly guessing....the extractor? I get my first glock in 23.5Hrs.....

                              Should I clean it? or leave it be before firing?
                              I know I will run patches of CLP through the barrel though. Any tips would be appreciated.

                              RSA = Recoil Spring Assembly
                              My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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