"Tactical..."

[Merc1138]

Not to mention the fact that some gear really does make a shooter better in some regards.

Take a guy to the range that has never shot a gun before, give him basic instruction and have him shoot 10 rounds at 100 yards, slap a zeroed scope on and hive him another 10 rounds. I can almost guarantee that he will be more accurate with a scope.

That doesnt mean hes a better shooter, it means his gear made a difference and let him shoot more accurately.

Again, i agree that new shooters should use irons and ammo to get accurate and proficient, but the fact remains that optics and gear DO allow people to use their weapon better.

Yeah, there are indeed plenty of circumstances where some gear can help some people shoot better. The idea that any money spent on gear besides the gun itself and ammo is so silly that you might as well take it a step further and claim any money spent on a 2nd gun would have been better off spent on ammo for the first(which for some people might make sense, definitely not everyone).

[anymoose]

Yeah, there are indeed plenty of circumstances where some gear can help some people shoot better. The idea that any money spent on gear besides the gun itself and ammo is so silly that you might as well take it a step further and claim any money spent on a 2nd gun would have been better off spent on ammo for the first(which for some people might make sense, definitely not everyone).

Yep. Might as well only own own a marlin 795 and a mosquito and buy .22 ammo because you will never be perfect with your gun and everything else would be a waste of money!

5.56? Waste of money unless youre a real operator.

[CnCFunFactory]

Imagine how much better of a shot you'd be if that $480 Eotech scope were converted to 5.56mm ammo.

Unless your day job is putting lead into enemies of the United States in places Rand McNally doesn't have maps for, all that tactical crap is just show. Nothing wrong with having a kitted up AR15, but understand none of that stuff in and of itself is going to make you a better with that weapon.

A "tactical" threat is a guy with 1000 rounds of practice and iron sights. He won't need batteries or dark earth furniture to get quality hits.

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It is awfully presumptuous of you to think that a mere $480 worth of ammo would make me a better shot or that I am somehow deficient in my abilities to get "quality hits" because I use an eotech or have FDE furniture on my weapons platform of choice.

[SilverTauron]

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It is awfully presumptuous of you to think that a mere $480 worth of ammo would make me a better shot or that I am somehow deficient in my abilities to get "quality hits" because I use an eotech or have FDE furniture on my weapons platform of choice.

Fortunately for all of us that is not my attitude on the topic at all.

I have never said you or anyone else were "deficient" in anything.It isn't presumption to state a proven fact that the more quality shooting you do, the better shooter you become. That is not fringe science or mystic theory.

The choice of caliber, platform, gun, and even accesories is up to the individual. If you wish to spend money on a kitted out AR15, have at it. I don't see a problem with it-as long as the owner understands bolting on 'tactical' furniture is no substitute for getting on the range and shooting to build skill.

What makes those military guys so deadly with their weapons isn't the gear, but the practice behind it.

It would seem questioning the purchase of more gear is the fastest path to irrelevant vitriol in our society, and not just about guns either.





Yep. Might as well only own own a marlin 795 and a mosquito and buy .22 ammo because you will never be perfect with your gun and everything else would be a waste of money!

5.56? Waste of money unless youre a real operator.


I have claimed none of the above. Do not pretend that I have.

[Merc1138]

The choice of caliber, platform, gun, and even accesories is up to the individual. If you wish to spend money on a kitted out AR15, have at it. I don't see a problem with it-as long as the owner understands bolting on 'tactical' furniture is no substitute for getting on the range and shooting to build skill.

LOL, that's not even close to what you posted previously. Go back and re-read what you typed.

Imagine how much better of a shot you'd be if that $480 Eotech scope were converted to 5.56mm ammo.

That right there is you assuming that someone who spent money on an eotech, no longer had money to buy ammo when in reality there are plenty of people on this forum and others who can afford to do both.

[gasol1ne]

hope your not saying i have to give up my tactical spork.. its the only think that works when my enchiladas start getting attitude. due to the flat black paint, they never see it coming.

i can also use it to gouge out a zombies eyes if im backed into a corner and who doesnt need a screw driver on their spork.. i ask you that?

I got that spork at a gun show. Comes in real handy when i order take out and the people forget to give me a plastic fork. Also when said plastic fork breaks. But i guess if i was clever id just put a real fork in my backpack.

[CZ9]

Total tactical with price breakdown.

http://youtu.be/FrAIFP2pfew

hahahaha that was great! But really though, everyone is labelling things tactical nowadays its getting ridiculous. I usually use the word tactical when I'm being sarcastic/mocking something. Or talking about canned bacon.