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Hello out there, just posting some information about my experiences with Sig Customer service and the quality of their 1911 gunsmiths. Notably I am not a Sig hater, I have three P series guns (P220, P226, P239) and think these are great.
I purchased one of the first 1911 GSR railed models years ago. It was my first 1911 so I did not know much about 1911's then. I shot it some and by the first 500 rounds the frame cracked, directly behind the series 80 lever. The first generation 1911's have Caspian frames and there was an issue with these frames. I sent the pistol back to Sig Arms and they replaced the frame. I was happy at that time to get a replacement, cleaned and shot it one time and into the safe it went. This was about 2007.
The other day I had an issue with my 1911, some dented cases on ejection. I showed the pistol to the local range master/smith and he pointed out several slide to frame fit issues and a beavertail to frame fit problem. I called Sig Sauer CS to see if they considered Sig quality work and was shocked to find out that they had my gun listed as a CPO gun. I was never notified that the replacement was going to be a CPO gun.
FYI new Sig Sauer pistols carry a lifetime warranty.
Older models before a certain date when the warranty changed only have a 5 year warranty...but...
CPO guns only have a two year warranty.
Issue number 1.
All the members should be aware that if you buy a "new" sig sauer that is defective in its metallurgy and they replace part of the gun, especially the frame, you may get your new gun lifetime warranty reduced to a 2 year warranty and the serial number tagged "CPO" in their computer. This may happen and you will not even be notified of the CPO switch-o-rue. This happened to me. Even after contacting customer service (representative Andrew Plante, I informed him at the start of the conversation that I was going to post the outcome of our interaction and his name on multiple forums) they will not correct the CPO switch in the computer. I bought a new gun that was repaired under the new gun warranty, not a certified pre-owned gun.
Issue number 2
The gunsmith reviewed pictures of the out of spec areas and poorly fit gun parts/slide. They concluded that the gun was "in specifications" and met the quality standards of the Sig Sauer company. Pics included.
You may want to keep the quality issues in mind before putting out big money for a Sig 1911. It is the current Sig 1911 gunsmith that thinks that this is adequate quality, not a gunsmith from several years ago.
I still like the gun and it shoots great. I will certainly keep it. But it is not a high end production 1911 like Sig claims.
I have a Kimber Stainless LE, Dan Wesson CBOB, Colt Defender, Colt XSE and Les Baer 1911. These are all better fit than this Sig. I have owned and sold a Dan Wesson PM7 and SA loaded 1911 that were both fit well.
Remember this was my first 1911. I did not really know what proper fit was supposed to be when they sent me this gun years ago. I have mainly kept this in the safe until recently, that is when I noticed the fitment issues.
This is my experience, posted for information only. Have a nice day- James
I purchased one of the first 1911 GSR railed models years ago. It was my first 1911 so I did not know much about 1911's then. I shot it some and by the first 500 rounds the frame cracked, directly behind the series 80 lever. The first generation 1911's have Caspian frames and there was an issue with these frames. I sent the pistol back to Sig Arms and they replaced the frame. I was happy at that time to get a replacement, cleaned and shot it one time and into the safe it went. This was about 2007.
The other day I had an issue with my 1911, some dented cases on ejection. I showed the pistol to the local range master/smith and he pointed out several slide to frame fit issues and a beavertail to frame fit problem. I called Sig Sauer CS to see if they considered Sig quality work and was shocked to find out that they had my gun listed as a CPO gun. I was never notified that the replacement was going to be a CPO gun.
FYI new Sig Sauer pistols carry a lifetime warranty.
Older models before a certain date when the warranty changed only have a 5 year warranty...but...
CPO guns only have a two year warranty.
Issue number 1.
All the members should be aware that if you buy a "new" sig sauer that is defective in its metallurgy and they replace part of the gun, especially the frame, you may get your new gun lifetime warranty reduced to a 2 year warranty and the serial number tagged "CPO" in their computer. This may happen and you will not even be notified of the CPO switch-o-rue. This happened to me. Even after contacting customer service (representative Andrew Plante, I informed him at the start of the conversation that I was going to post the outcome of our interaction and his name on multiple forums) they will not correct the CPO switch in the computer. I bought a new gun that was repaired under the new gun warranty, not a certified pre-owned gun.
Issue number 2
The gunsmith reviewed pictures of the out of spec areas and poorly fit gun parts/slide. They concluded that the gun was "in specifications" and met the quality standards of the Sig Sauer company. Pics included.
You may want to keep the quality issues in mind before putting out big money for a Sig 1911. It is the current Sig 1911 gunsmith that thinks that this is adequate quality, not a gunsmith from several years ago.
I still like the gun and it shoots great. I will certainly keep it. But it is not a high end production 1911 like Sig claims.
I have a Kimber Stainless LE, Dan Wesson CBOB, Colt Defender, Colt XSE and Les Baer 1911. These are all better fit than this Sig. I have owned and sold a Dan Wesson PM7 and SA loaded 1911 that were both fit well.
Remember this was my first 1911. I did not really know what proper fit was supposed to be when they sent me this gun years ago. I have mainly kept this in the safe until recently, that is when I noticed the fitment issues.
This is my experience, posted for information only. Have a nice day- James
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