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  • laabstract
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1960

    Sig P226 DAK Review!

    I picked up a neat little pistol the other day in a trade a P226 DAK in .357 Sig. As some of you know I am a huge Sig Sauer fan, they seem to be some of the most comfortable and accurate pistols I own. But the Sig Double Action Kellerman seems to go against the grain of most Sig pistols.

    1. It has no decocker function
    2. It has a two stage trigger
    3. Restrike capability

    The DAK trigger works in two ways, the first reset has a 8.5 Pound trigger pull, the second is 6.5 Pound trigger pull. To engage the lighter trigger pull you have to almost completely release the trigger to its original position. If you release the trigger to the normal reset point on SA/DA you get a 8.5 Pound Trigger pull. (After initial Bang 1st click 8.5 Pounds 2nd click 6.5 Pounds)

    When I first learned about the system I simply did not get it. I heard people explain to me that its just a way to keep law enforcement from getting hassled by lawsuits for negligent shootings. But would agencies such as DHS and the Cost Guard use an inferior pistol just to better protect themselves from lawsuits?

    Upon actually firing the P226 using the DAK trigger, I found the 6.5 Pound trigger pull to be very similar to my Gen4 Glock 17 just much much longer, and my accuracy left something to be desired. So a little disappointed I switched to the 8.5 Pound trigger pull and immediately noticed it is much lighter and smoother than a conventional DA P226 with none of the take up that plague some of the P226’s I have shot in the past. I am not really a fan of the DA/SA transition on some of my other Sigs (the 1st shot on a decocked SA/DA Sig) I realize that it is a safety feature and can be easily overcome with additional training, I just have not invested in this training.

    But now I get it, the DAK is just an improvement on the DAO with the added novelty of having the Kellerman systems 6.5 Pound trigger pull(it lasts for days). I found myself immediately at home with this pistol having taken a couple Glock courses I found that some of the training transitioned well in the DAK 8.5 Pound system. So will the DAK be as accurate as a SAO or standard sig in SA the quick answer is no. But what the DAK system lends itself to is the ability to be draw from a holster and give you a much smoother Double Action trigger pull than a conventional DA/SA sig and also gives the consistency of a DAO in trigger weight, with restrike ability that you wont find on a Glock. In conclusion If you are not a fan of Sig’s conventional DA to SA or have extensive experience or training in Glocks, XD’s or any other DAO pistol; then the DAK might be right up your alley.

    Now please excuse me while I DAK that A** up


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  • #2
    Icypu
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1044

    I'm glad you like the pistol. I recognize my dead skin on the E2 grips. How do you like the system overall?

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    • #3
      creampuff
      • Jan 2006
      • 3730

      Have you noticed any loss of accuracy, compared to the conventional DA/SA Sig? At the usual pistol distances of course (not shooting a quarter at 100 yards type of shooting)

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      • #4
        laabstract
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 1960

        There will be a loss of accuracy if you are only shooting SA at the range, but if you shoot first shot DA then the rest SA I will bet you will see a big difference. I really think the DAK lends itself to more Combat/Selfdefense shooting compared to target. I found the system just as accurate as my Gen4 Glock 17.
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        • #5
          9mmepiphany
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 8075

          Originally posted by laabstract
          When I first learned about the system I simply did not get it. I heard people explain to me that its just a way to keep law enforcement from getting hassled by lawsuits for negligent shootings. But would agencies such as DHS and the Cost Guard use an inferior pistol just to better protect themselves from lawsuits?
          The goal of the DAK was to offer a smoother transition to LE departments changing over from revolvers. The DAK offers a trigger stroke similar to a tuned S&W K-frame.

          As such, it is correctly run at speed, the same way you would run a revolver.

          The shorter, heavier, reset is to avoid short stroking the trigger travel. It isn't meant to allow folks to stage the trigger.

          There is no practical accuracy difference between shooting a DAK or a DA/SA trigger in SA...at ranges less than 25 yards...it is just a matter of technique. There are many folks who will shoot a DAK better than a SA as there is less of a tendency to jerk the trigger in anticipation. Shooting at speed, 4 shot/second, requires a different technique with the different trigger systems
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          • #6
            CWUSCG
            Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 426

            But would agencies such as DHS and the Cost Guard use an inferior pistol just to better protect themselves from lawsuits?
            I suppose that's one way to look at it. I had heard of more negligent discharges when we(the CG) carried the Beretta's than with the SIGs. I'm sure 98.9% of the people who carry in the CG aren't gun enthusiasts like we are on here and are only trained to the minimum standard. Personally, I carry this darn thing almost everyday and still not a fan of the trigger. But, for the environment we work in, the thing will still shoot if its covered in saltwater. Of course, so will other handguns that I like better too
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            • #7
              laabstract
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 1960

              I am not a big fan of the M9 and I wouldn't mind if the Army switched to the DAK.
              In memory of Ricky Lee Turner, January 16th 2009 Baghdad Iraq

              In memory of Rogelio Antonio Ramirez, August 26th 2007
              Saqlawiyah Iraq

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              unknown

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