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  • #16
    unusedusername
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4124

    The best weight for a trigger is the weight that you can shoot accurately and safely.

    Lighter weight is more accurate, to a point.

    Heavier weight is safer, to a point.

    It depends on your shooting.

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    • #17
      IPSICK
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 4259

      I hope we're not confusing a trigger job for basic trigger polishing cleanup. To me a trigger job involves minute adjustments to internal trigger geometry that makes dramatic changes to the trigger pull. The best comparison I can make is the SIG action enhancement package (glorified factory polish job) vs. Grayguns reduced reset (a true custom trigger job). Home polish work that doesn't get too aggressive and changes the geometry should be fine. But screwing around with springs will require research. An actual trigger should be left to the pros or plinking guns you don't mind ruining.
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      • #18
        doc540
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 1515

        Originally posted by Dhena81
        Agreed 100%

        I think one of the more common gunsmithing services used are fixing issues some guy with a Dremel did at home from info found on YouTube.
        Hey, you don't have to get personal.

        Everyone listen to this man.

        Or, at least, practice on something cheap and disposable.
        Shooting more, typing less

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        • #19
          t0kie
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 3419

          Don't do it unless you know exactly what you are doing. It may look simple but you could mess it up & the weapon may not function properly.

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          • #20
            littlejake
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 2168

            What a trigger job consists of differs for various types of guns and actions. Some are simple and some are not. Sometimes to get a decent trigger a jig and stone have to be used -- this is for pros or people with a lot of experience. OP, you admit to limited experience on even dissassembly of a fire control group. You should not try it yourself. A Bubba'ed trigger job is a safety issue and may even double or go full auto.

            Get a smith who's worked on your type pistol and will guarantee his work.
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            • #21
              zfields
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2010
              • 13658

              Originally posted by IPSICK
              I hope we're not confusing a trigger job for basic trigger polishing cleanup. To me a trigger job involves minute adjustments to internal trigger geometry that makes dramatic changes to the trigger pull. The best comparison I can make is the SIG action enhancement package (glorified factory polish job) vs. Grayguns reduced reset (a true custom trigger job). Home polish work that doesn't get too aggressive and changes the geometry should be fine. But screwing around with springs will require research. An actual trigger should be left to the pros or plinking guns you don't mind ruining.
              Since he specifically wants to change the DA pull weight, the hammer / sear engagement doesn't need to be messed with. A spring swap with a cleanup would do what he needs.
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              • #22
                JTROKS
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2007
                • 13093

                American guns makes it look simple, but when cutting to alter contact angle on most sear and hammer contact points requires jig to keep everything squared up for that long lasting, reliable trigger job. I thought Ron Power had a fixture that adapts to their series I or Ii jig, but I don't see it anymore. Briley can do a superb trigger job on your 5906 if Claudio is still there. Be careful when tinkering with the 59 series action. Lots of levers that engages/disengage safety features that can lead to light or no primer strike. Im sure S&W has a great warranty, but not when they see botched up trigger jobs. if you performed a "detailed" strip on your 5906 and put it back together without a problem I think you can figure out how to do a trigger job.

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                In the eye of the storm
                Seek the roses along the way
                Just beware of the thorns...
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                • #23
                  sjm9877
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 1182

                  Ok safety patrol you are right. We should not do work on our own guns. I think next time a want to go shooting I will hire a professional to do the shooting for and tell me how it went. Otherwise I might hurt myself.

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                  • #24
                    greybeard
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1086

                    Originally posted by sjm9877
                    Ok safety patrol you are right. We should not do work on our own guns. I think next time a want to go shooting I will hire a professional to do the shooting for and tell me how it went. Otherwise I might hurt myself.
                    I think what is being said is that a trigger job on a S&W 6904 should not be your first gunsmithing job. If it was a Glock or a S&W MP, I would say go for it.
                    John

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                    • #25
                      Rorge Retson
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 2712

                      Seems like a number of people here, like certain college professors, forget what it was like to not know what they know, and assume that everyone (and his brother) have their own level of experience and expertise.

                      Those were always the worst professors, as they did not know how to meet people where they are.

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                      • #26
                        sjm9877
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 1182

                        You can't protect people from themselves. That is the same mentality that anti-gun people use to justify their point of view. People are smart and can learn to due things on their own. If youare not willing to try it yourself that's fine . Don't ask others to stay within your comfort zone. Some can, some can't that does not mean we should tell everyone to stop trying. I would be the first to say be careful, if your not confident take a course. I prefer to learn by doing and if I make a mistake I will take the responsibility.

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                        • #27
                          Dhena81
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 4587

                          Originally posted by sjm9877
                          You can't protect people from themselves. That is the same mentality that anti-gun people use to justify their point of view. People are smart and can learn to due things on their own. If youare not willing to try it yourself that's fine . Don't ask others to stay within your comfort zone. Some can, some can't that does not mean we should tell everyone to stop trying. I would be the first to say be careful, if your not confident take a course. I prefer to learn by doing and if I make a mistake I will take the responsibility.
                          I think the point some people are trying to make is to be careful and know what your doing period especially true when regarding the FCG. Not that getting a trigger job done on your gun is unsafe or that you shouldn't perform other home based gunsmithing.

                          Remember when Remington 700's where getting all the bad press in 2011 about accidentally firing without the owners pulling the trigger?

                          Do you think that was an issue from the factory that popped up after 49 years of service (1962) or an issue that came about from home based gunsmithing on a part of the firearm like the FCG.

                          I understand what your saying in your post to an extent, but I would discourage blindly charging in and modifying a part on your firearm that could potentially make your gun unsafe as a result. Even while obeying the 4 rules of firearm safety your mod could result in an ND.

                          All of that aside I also would discourage modifying the weight of springs in a HD gun for absolute reliability again unless you know what your doing. A lot of companies offer different trigger packages from duty to competition for a reason.

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                          • #28
                            JTROKS
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 13093

                            I think the OP just want to smoothen the trigger up. If he can detail strip it he is very mechanically inclined. He just need a Dremmel toll and polishing kit and polish up the contact points. That should do the trick to get most of the grittiness. No need to change springs.
                            The wise man said just find your place
                            In the eye of the storm
                            Seek the roses along the way
                            Just beware of the thorns...
                            K. Meine

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                            • #29
                              skyscraper
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 5196

                              Check with the gunsmithing forum.

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                              • #30
                                Mikeb
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2008
                                • 3189

                                A trigger job is easy... the downside is that screwing it up is even easier.
                                Hint... don't use a dremel.
                                take care
                                Mike

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