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  • Thunder
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Jun 2012
    • 563

    5150 family member

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    nocomply25
    Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 273

    If the person was on a hold in the past then they cant own a fire arm, but i do not see why you would not be able to take them shooting. As far as locking up guns when the person is over, i do not think there is a law that says you have to but if you feel the person should not be around fire arms then lock them up.

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    • #3
      Thunder
      Senior Member
      CGN Contributor
      • Jun 2012
      • 563

      DOJ website said he can't be in "control" of ammo, but I found nothing regarding the firearm itself (I would pull the actual reference but I'm in my phone).

      I think to shot the gun he would need to technically be in control of the ammo. And where would my limit of control end regarding things kept in my residence?

      For insight his hold was because of a medical condition. He needs a "cocktail" of drugs and the Dr. screwed it up and he went loopy for a short time. When things work right every thing is OK.
      Last edited by Thunder; 07-16-2012, 10:41 AM.

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      • #4
        MossbergMan
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 1255

        2A rights can be restored to an individual (during their 5 yr. prohibition) by getting a writ from the Adminstrator of the facility of confinment/treatment stating the person "Will most likely use firearms in a safe and lawful manner".
        Until then, no guns, no trips to the range, no shooting. Without the writ they are on a 5 year prohibition from firearms.
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        • #5
          Cucv
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 563

          how will they know if you take a family member who was 5150 (which can be tons of reasons) to the range?
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          • #6
            Librarian
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 44625

            'Control' means as little as 'keeping it from falling to the ground'.

            While a prohibited person, no contact with guns or ammo or magazines or reloading components, no knowing the combination to a safe that has those things, or having access to the keys that might open something that contains those things.

            It would be possible to accompany you to a range where you shoot and he does not, but that's really a bad idea.
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            • #7
              BomarFab
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1146

              Originally posted by MossbergMan
              2A rights can be restored to an individual (during their 5 yr. prohibition) by getting a writ from the Adminstrator of the facility of confinment/treatment stating the person "Will most likely use firearms in a safe and lawful manner".
              Until then, no guns, no trips to the range, no shooting. Without the writ they are on a 5 year prohibition from firearms.

              So by this information, after a 5 year period post 5150 it would be okay to use firearms or apply to own one?
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              • #8
                TheExpertish
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 3451

                Originally posted by Librarian
                'Control' means as little as 'keeping it from falling to the ground'.

                While a prohibited person, no contact with guns or ammo or magazines or reloading components, no knowing the combination to a safe that has those things, or having access to the keys that might open something that contains those things.

                It would be possible to accompany you to a range where you shoot and he does not, but that's really a bad idea.
                I agree. I would take this from the letter of the law perspective.
                Originally posted by BomarFab
                So by this information, after a 5 year period post 5150 it would be okay to use firearms or apply to own one?
                It can be as long as 10 so it depends on your situation, and what the hold was for exactly.
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                • #9
                  MisplacedTexan
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 706

                  Not to equate the two things - but I've got kids under 18 in my house. I doubt anything would ever happen with the firearms and my kids........ however, in accordance w/ Kalifornia law, you can't have a self defense pistol ready for defense, you have to lock it up, which I do. Point is, if something were to happen and you let a 5150 person in a particular situation, if something were to happen, you would be screwed.

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                  • #10
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44625

                    Originally posted by MisplacedTexan
                    Not to equate the two things - but I've got kids under 18 in my house. I doubt anything would ever happen with the firearms and my kids........ however, in accordance w/ Kalifornia law, you can't have a self defense pistol ready for defense, you have to lock it up, which I do. Point is, if something were to happen and you let a 5150 person in a particular situation, if something were to happen, you would be screwed.
                    I'm happy to tell you that the underlined is inaccurate. You cannot have a gun available to unauthorized access by minors. You can carry a loaded handgun on your belt at home - that's under your control.

                    See the wiki article -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Storage_and_Children
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                    • #11
                      MisplacedTexan
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 706

                      Thanks for the correction!! (although I was thinking in my mind if I were asleep or otherwise not in "control" of firearm(s) - it didn't quite come out that way).

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