Is the Taurus Millenium Pro any good?

[till44]

My wife wants a new carry gun and found a Taurus Mil-Pro that they sell in PINK. Has anyone heard any reviews on it, shot one , owned one, that could let me know more about them. I have heard mixed reviews on the older milleniums but nothing of the newer ones.
Thanks for the help.
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[thomasanelson]

I have "older" models and a new PT145 Mil Pro. I like them all. The Pro's have much better triggers out of the box than the non-Pro versions and Taurus seems to have solved the frame cracking issues from the first run. For the price, size and reliability (I have experienced), you can't get a much better package.

[Jerry1949]

pull the trigger a bit and put the safety on. It will now fire with the safety on...

Can you qualify this statement? This is serious.

[randy]

You will find many posts on the quality or lack there of on Taurus firearms. There are enough negitive posts I would stay away.

My personal experience with them has been they are junk. I've been told they are getting better but I wouldn't buy one.

[MudCamper]

I own a PT145 Pro and it is currently my favorite handgun. Tiny and packs 10 rounds of 45 ACP! Plus I like the way it shoots. I have had no problems with it. There have been many "generations" of this line of handguns, and many people have had trouble with the earlier ones. Just make sure it's a recent generation and you'll be fine.

See this thread over on THR for info on identifying them: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=3654671

[Jerry1949]

I own a PT145 Pro and it is currently my favorite handgun. Tiny and packs 10 rounds of 45 ACP! Plus I like the way it shoots. I have had no problems with it. There have been many "generations" of this line of handguns, and many people have had trouble with the earlier ones. Just make sure it's a recent generation and you'll be fine.

See this thread over on THR for info on identifying them: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=3654671

I will have to parrot MudCamper on this issue. I have two Mil Pros. An older
9mm and a new PT145. I have around 4000 rounds down the tube on the
9mm and at least 1000 through the .45. Both shoot very good and I have had no bad experiences with either.

Years ago I had an earlier model Taurus semi auto in 9mm (I forget the model number), and I didn't like the engineering at all. Got rid of it quick. But Taurus has come a long way with the newer models in respect to fit and finish and overall quality.

As far as the issue brought up earlier about the safety malfunctioning, I am going to try and make mine fail as soon as I get home tonight. If it DOES fail as described, I will come back here and eat this post without salt or pepper.

[till44]

Let me know about the whole trigger/safety thing...if it is true it seems Taurus would address the issue...I have heard about the cracking frame but have heard that problem has been fixed...Thanks for the info, keep it coming..

- How about kick? With those .45's? With that small frame do you really feel it? Anyone with a 9mm? How about it's kick? Just trying to get a feel for it, my wife shoots regularly a GLOCK 19, is it similar???

[Jerry1949]

Let me know about the whole trigger/safety thing...if it is true it seems Taurus would address the issue...I have heard about the cracking frame but have heard that problem has been fixed...Thanks for the info, keep it coming..

- How about kick? With those .45's? With that small frame do you really feel it? Anyone with a 9mm? How about it's kick? Just trying to get a feel for it, my wife shoots regularly a GLOCK 19, is it similar???

When I got home last night, I pulled the PT145 out of the safe and once I made sure it was not loaded, I put it through the ringer regarding the safety issue brought up in the earlier post. With the safety off, I pulled the trigger in many different fashions and then put the safety on. I could not force the pistol to fire. I went through different senarios for over 10 minutes and the pistol safety never failed. I even dropped it on the floor (carpeted!), two or three times and tried to make it fire. Nothing.

If anyone has experienced what GartenZwerge described in his post, I would really like to hear about it. I'm still waiting for the qualification from him over his post.

As for the "KICK", I practice with less expensive WWB, 230 gr. and carry with Winchester JHP. Neither have significant recoil for me, but then I weigh 225 pounds. Your wife may experience something she may not be comfortable with. I would never reccomend a pistol (for carry), to anyone, if they were afraid of it.

I'm not familier with the Glock 19 so I can't comment on that question, but I DO have, and carry, a Glock 26 (9 mm). It has a greater recoil that the PT145, IMO.

Hope this has helped.

[till44]

Thanks..how about trigger pull, stiff, crisp??? and weight of pull?

[Jerry1949]

Thanks..how about trigger pull, stiff, crisp??? and weight of pull?

I wouldn't call it crisp but it's not a soft trigger either. I've never tested the shear weight but it's probably around 5-6 pounds.

[MrTuffPaws]

pull the trigger a bit and put the safety on. It will now fire with the safety on...

Can you qualify this statement? This is serious.

Kinda. On the DAO models, if you pull the trigger slightly, then engage the safety while the trigger is held back, then finish pulling the trigger, the gun will fire. The trigger is directly connected to the transfer bar that rests on the striker. The safety moves up to engage the transfer bar as well. If you move the transfer bar past the point where the safety can engage, then the gun will still fire if the trigger is pulled.

As far as I know, this is not a problem with the SA/DA newer models, nor do I really consider it a problem with the DAO models (which I own) because one, it's a DAO gun and shouldn't have a safety to begin with (IMO), and two, if your finger is pulling the trigger when you are engaging the safety, then you're a just a dumb ***.

[MrTuffPaws]

As for the gun, I have a PT145 MilPro DAO version. Excellent little gun. I have a couple of thousand rounds through it with no failures at all. The gun is very accurate for a short barrel auto. For SD type shooting, I can easily put 2 to center of mass and one to the head out to 10 yards without issue. Even with the DAO trigger.

The SA/DA models are basically the compact versions of the 24/7s.

Head over to Taurusarmed.net and read up on them there.

[Jerry1949]

Kinda. On the DAO models, if you pull the trigger slightly, then engage the safety while the trigger is held back, then finish pulling the trigger, the gun will fire. The trigger is directly connected to the transfer bar that rests on the striker. The safety moves up to engage the transfer bar as well. If you move the transfer bar past the point where the safety can engage, then the gun will still fire if the trigger is pulled.

As far as I know, this is not a problem with the SA/DA newer models, nor do I really consider it a problem with the DAO models (which I own) because one, it's a DAO gun and shouldn't have a safety to begin with (IMO), and two, if your finger is pulling the trigger when you are engaging the safety, then you're a just a dumb ***.

Under those circustances, any pistol might do the same thing and I agree with your last sentence. Thank you for the clarification, because I miss-understood the original trigger/safety situation.

...............and if you can get a consistant head shot at 30 feet with that short barreled thing, my NRA, camo ballcap is off to you.

[MrTuffPaws]

Well, shucks. Thanks for the compliment

Here is a review from GunBlast. That dude can shoot.

http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-PT145.htm