OK to use preban glock 19 hi cap mag?

[HighValleyRanch]

This came up on another forum.
I have a generation 2 glock 19 from 1989 with the original 15 round magazines.
I also have a CCW. So the question is, can I legally and safely carry the glock with the hi cap mag, or does the 10 round ban apply?
I know I can legally own the preban mag, and can use it at the range, but carry? Would I run into trouble with some unknowledable LEO about this.
My CCW instructor said it would be OK, but I worry about some more anti-carry counties, even though I am within the law.

Also, can I carry this as a spare mag on my person, or in my briefcase with or without the licensed permit carry gun?

[Hillbilly Rebel]

This came up on another forum.
I have a generation 2 glock 19 from 1989 with the original 15 round magazines.
I also have a CCW. So the question is, can I legally and safely carry the glock with the hi cap mag, or does the 10 round ban apply?
I know I can legally own the preban mag, and can use it at the range, but carry? Would I run into trouble with some unknowledable LEO about this.
My CCW instructor said it would be OK, but I worry about some more anti-carry counties, even though I am within the law.

Also, can I carry this as a spare mag on my person, or in my briefcase with or without the licensed permit carry gun?

Ask your issuing agency if they allow you to carry large capacity mags if you already legally own them. From a civil standpoint if you had to use the firearm, you'd be cast in a bad light for using those evil "hi-capacity" magazines.

[Librarian]

If you bought it in California (or the mags were at least here in CA before the ban), yes, you may use those 'owned prior to-California's restriction on large-capacity ammunition feeding devices' anywhere you can legally have or use the gun. The restriction is on acquiring and transferring new magazines with > 10 round capacity, not in owning and using them. Same for spare mag - if you can carry one in the gun, surely you can carry another outside of it.

PC 12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:

(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.

Nothing in there about use or possession.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

From a civil standpoint if you had to use the firearm, you'd be cast in a bad light for using those evil "hi-capacity" magazines.

Highly unlikely. If they are lawfully possessed standard capacity magazines, you have every right to use them in any currently manufactured firearms in which they function.
Many of us on this board have standard magazines that we purchased before 2000 for firearms that we don't currently own. Heck I finally got around to picking up a Beretta 92 to go with the half dozen standard mags I have. And eventually I'll pick up a Glock 21 before they change the design on me.

[leelaw]

You are completely in the clear to use your lawfully owned standard cap magazines in your CCW handgun. It would take an insanely stupid LEO to give you grief about it.

[gunrun45]

No issue.
Carry it.

[FortCourageArmory]

Ask your issuing agency if they allow you to carry large capacity mags if you already legally own them. From a civil standpoint if you had to use the firearm, you'd be cast in a bad light for using those evil "hi-capacity" magazines.

I call FUD on this. If you owned this mags prior to the ban, it is perfectly legal to use them in any fashion.....including carrying in your CCW firearm...you wish. Use them and have a great day.

[cmaynes]

but be sure your gun was available before the ban... If you have a gun that is post ban- like the newer HK's, S&W MP's or other "modern" pistols you might have some explaining to do when a LEO calls you on them...

technically (as I understand it) the burden of proof is on the state to determine "when" you got the magazines, and it is a certain temptation to buy hi-caps if you go to a state where they are not regulated...

If you want to be squeaky clean don't use them- If you are squeaky clean- go for it...

ymmv-

cm