Front Sight & Thumbs up Grip

[CK_32]

This is why I don't pay for top classes.


I personally would reject a lot of information. I can't justify paying for something I don't want to learn/do. Sure it may be better. But if I do believe in it, it won't work for me. Same as faith. You can only convert those who want to be converted. If they don't truly believe they will revert or reject the information.

That said I'm also not religious for that same reason, same principle lol

[jmf_tracy]

I wonder if they bother CZ users with the thumbs up grip.

doesn't bother this CZ user.
I have shot thumbs up, thumbs forward and overlapping without incident.
I just prefer overlapping because it feels natural to me.

[ScottyXbones]

Thumbs up is to give leverage to your trigger finger so you don't push/pull the shot low/left. In the Weaver stance your support hand goes against the heel of the palm of your trigger hand, not the stock/grip.

I don't know why, but thumbs up is the only way I can shoot accurately. With enough time and money, anyone can compensate with muscle memory and shoot accurately with any kind of grip.

Now if only I had enough time to practice for HCM...

[WASR10]

Is accidentally manipulating the controls a right handed thing? I shoot lefty and have never had trouble, thumb up or down.

[Christopherberr]

I anticipate the thumbs up access works able-bodied with some accoutrements like Glocks.

[LBDamned]

holy necrobump!

[CK_32]

With enough time and money, anyone can compensate with muscle memory and shoot accurately with any kind of grip.

Best comment in this thread thus far.

10 internet cookies for you my friend.

[Saym14]

They teach Weaver and thumbs up. It works for what they teach, but it's not something I would ever use, nor teach. This is my biggest complaint about their training, but they do allow you to shoot how you want after you try their way first.

If you're shooting a Weaver stance, then use their grip, it works. If you're shooting something more modern like Iso or a form there of, shoot thumbs forward.

this^ except when I went they did not allow anyone to shoot anything but weaver and thumbs up.

[heidad01]

I went to Frontsight for the handgun course and tried my best to embrace the thumbs up technique after years of thumbs forwward. I jut wanted to be open minded. I have since been to other training classes and others teach differently. I have since returned to thumbs forward. I think the thumbs up approach works well with some guns like Glocks, for example. I believe thubs forward is critical for 1911 shooters, which I am.

One of the guys in my group that I took down there was using his 1911 and he refused to shoot thumbs up and stuck to his guns (pun intended) and kept with his thumbs forward grip. He shot better than everyone in our class of 31 people, won the one on one competition and also outshot a guy that was there candidating to be an instructor. The Frontsight people gave him some grief for the first day and then left him alone after that. If it works for you, great. It is certainly not the be all end all. It is there take on the correct grip. Other trainers will offer a different perspective. Take to different classes, try all of the different techniques, pass them through your own filters and go with what works best for you. Your hands, grip angle and the gun you shoot should be the elements that dictate your best grip option. Enjoy the ride!

^^^ good advice.

It is amazing how many tacticool shooting schools there are and how they take advantage of the new and not so new in the field promissing the ultimate certificate for alot of unjustified money. I mean no disrespect to anyone, we all start somewhere and sometime.
I have seen so many offering training and when you see them(the trainers) shoot, well you would think better than to rid yourself of good money for the certificate they offer.
Shooting is not that complicated but like most sports, if you started young, you will get very good at it. A bit more difficult to get started if you have not been exposed to it or have never held or shot a gun and want to get good in a hurry because your buddies are into it. However, all it takes is the interest in learning, practice and persistace.
That said, how you hold a gun is a personal preference and varies alot depending on what you are shooting. There have been a number of great shooters who have/had never heard of the weaver or Isc stance nor did they pay FS or any such school for a certificate.

Here is a guy who can probably shoot the nuts off a perp at 50 paces faster than the guy can blink an eye , has forgotten more about shooting handguns than most will ever know and has enough shooting trophys to fill a trailer truck or two. . Moreover, he does not charge either. His instruction videos are on Utube and free for all. you can start with this one and there are many more. I follow his advice because it comes from experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChSazF41q-s

Watch, go to the range and practice. Eventually, your grip and stance will become second nature. Lastly, remeber that you need to be an excellent swimmer first before you can take on lifeguard duty.

[Hookalakupua]

Just a couple of videos for discussion. No right or wrong as it's a matter of what works for each individual.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GewbIC2P8Hw

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=45QhpvY9LZc