Transferring from LEO to Myself

[WHAT IFS]

I know this has probably been mentioned and I have searched, but cannot seem to find a direct answer here. I know this is probably not the "correct" way, but just curious. I have a good friend who is a LEO and has a LCP. I was really wanting one as well for CCW, but may just go for the LCR if this is too much trouble. Theoretically speaking, could he purchase the gun and then the day after sell it to me resulting in myself owning a legal LCP or would that be way too fishy? Also, would I even be able to use that gun for CCW? I will most likely not even try this to ensure I don't get him into trouble, but figured would check to see just in case. Thanks guys.

[GMG]

This would be considered a straw sale.............a no no!

[macey109]

sse

[pdq_wizzard]

Nothing says he bought a gun he doesn't like he can't sell it

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[Chaos47]

There's a bunch of deputies in trouble for doing just this very thing right now.
But there's no reason your friend can't decide he doesn't like / want / need his and decide sell it. He just shouldn't make a habit of buying guns he doesn't like..

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/01/california-sheriff-deputies-accused-illegally-selling-weapons/

[WHAT IFS]

O wow I didn't realize this. Thanks for the heads up guys. If I went through a SSE and fixed it back to normal, can it be used for CCW? Wouldn't it essentially just be an illegal gun then as I own a gun off the roster list that is not SSE?

[Chaos47]

Roster applies at time of purchase. Its not an illegal gun. It will be legally purchased and DROS'd.

There may be some counties that do not allow off roster weapons, but I don't know about restrictions like that

[Ken Woodford]

I just sold a LCP to a non leo...but I had that LCP for 2 years. So to answer the second half of you questions is yes you can buy one from a leo or a private person who has bought one from a leo etc and carry it CCW.

However as all the others have posted for him to buy it one day and sell it to you so very quickly is a no no and would more than likely get him fired if found out.

Just keep looking...one will evenually turn up that you can buy.

[aghauler]

I know this has probably been mentioned and I have searched, but cannot seem to find a direct answer here. I know this is probably not the "correct" way, but just curious. I have a good friend who is a LEO and has a LCP. I was really wanting one as well for CCW, but may just go for the LCR if this is too much trouble. Theoretically speaking, could he purchase the gun and then the day after sell it to me resulting in myself owning a legal LCP or would that be way too fishy? Also, would I even be able to use that gun for CCW? I will most likely not even try this to ensure I don't get him into trouble, but figured would check to see just in case. Thanks guys.

Weren't there 4 LEO's just busted in Sacramento area a few weeks ago for such activity? BATF says they were "dealing" without a license and DOJ wasn't very happy with them either.
I thought also if using LEO status to purchase firearms you had to have a letter of approval from the Chief LEO in the Dept stipulating the firearm was a duty firearm.

[Librarian]

Weren't there 4 LEO's just busted in Sacramento area a few weeks ago for such activity? BATF says they were "dealing" without a license and DOJ wasn't very happy with them either.


I thought also if using LEO status to purchase firearms you had to have a letter of approval from the Chief LEO in the Dept stipulating the firearm was a duty firearm.

As to the last, no - the letter is so the buyer can skip the 10-day wait. Otherwise, LEO are exempt from the Roster and may buy anything they can afford. Even though the law does say 'for use in the discharge of their official duties' that isn't the way it is enforced, probably because it's difficult to isolate 'official duties' in a way that precludes 'use for other things'.

But as already noted, LEO-friend buying with the intent of reselling to non-LEO is problematic. It could lead to department discipline, up to loss of job.

[code33]

I don't see the "official duties" restriction in the PC for individual "sworn members" to purchase. It says that agencies can purchase "for use in the discharge of their official duties."

PC section 32000(b)(4):
The sale or purchase of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm
capable of being concealed upon the person, if the pistol, revolver,
or other firearm is sold to, or purchased by, the Department of
Justice, any police department, any sheriff's official, any marshal's
office, the Youth and Adult Correctional Agency, the California
Highway Patrol, any district attorney's office, or the military or
naval forces of this state or of the United States for use in the
discharge of their official duties. Nor shall anything in this
section prohibit the sale to, or purchase by, sworn members of these
agencies of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being
concealed upon the person.

As to the last, no - the letter is so the buyer can skip the 10-day wait. Otherwise, LEO are exempt from the Roster and may buy anything they can afford. Even though the law does say 'for use in the discharge of their official duties' that isn't the way it is enforced, probably because it's difficult to isolate 'official duties' in a way that precludes 'use for other things'.

But as already noted, LEO-friend buying with the intent of reselling to non-LEO is problematic. It could lead to department discipline, up to loss of job.