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  • Bug Splat
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2007
    • 6561

    M&P 45 FS quick review

    Finally had a chance to hit the range with it.

    Reliability:
    Fired 150 FMJ reloads and 100 JHP very hot reloads. Not one jam. 50 of those rounds were shot by my 10yo daughter. She weighs in at staggering 68lbs and this was her first time shooting a pistol and I was sure she would get some jams from limp wristing. NOPE! The M&P shot everything like a champ. Only issue was half the brass was ejecting up. I'll have to check out the extractor tonight when I clean it. Easy enough fix.

    Shooting:
    Some may know that I'm a big glock fan. Would sell my kidney before I sold my G17. That being said, Glock better watch out. What a fantastic pistol the M&P is to shoot. Muzzle rise is the lowest I have felt in any pistol design (not counting 22lr). My daughter actually preferred to shoot the M&P45 over my G17 and CZ-PCR because "it did not jump as much". The barrel stayed low and on target. Fast double-tap shots were very very easy. Faster than my G17 which I have over 30K practice rounds through. Don't tell my G17, but the M&P may be my new nightstand gun if it proves to feed my SD ammo.

    Design:
    Lets start with what I like about the pistol. The ergos are amazing and the option for different backstraps makes it even better. The controls are in the proper locations and easy to reach with one hand. What sets this double stack pistol apart from the rest of the 45's is its slim grip but sacrifices rounds. Still, 10rds of 45acp is very respectable and its not like we can own higher in Cali. The "fish scale" slide serrations are the best. They give a solid grip without cutting your skin.

    Now to the bad. The trigger is awful. Spongy, long, creepy, and the mysterious reset point bugs the crap out of me. Hard as it is to believe, Glock makes a superior trigger system. Still waiting on Midway to send me my Apex parts. They seem to feel 2 weeks is not enough time for a small part to ship to my door. Anyway, i'm hoping Apex will fix this for me. The poor trigger was not inhibiting, I could shoot accurately just fine. It just feels wrong. The lack of reset is the worst for me. I want to hear and feel that click. I hear Apex is working on a RAM for the 45 but I'm not holding my breath. Spent some time this week looking into solving this and I have a few ideas. Going to make them and try it out. My last gripe is with the stupid mag and sear disconnect. S&W built a great pistol then the lawyers stepped in and added extra parts. I don't like "extra" small parts just floating around my guns. The smaller they are the easier they break. KISS. But, S&W redeemed itself by making these extra parts removable. The M&P can do what you want it to do safety wise.

    In the end I'm very happy with it. It has some con's but those can be dealt with.
  • #2
    Legasat
    Intergalactic Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Mar 2009
    • 4151

    Bought my first M&P in Dec 2007 (9mm FS). Two more in 2009 (9c & .45FS). Many thousands of rounds later. Not one problem in any of them. The trigger is not as good as some, but not hard to get used to, plus, it does smooth out with more shooting. Apex probably still a good idea. All of mine are still stock.

    I have read good things about the new M&P Shield trigger. Can't wait to try one. Have also read S&W has had so much feedback about it, it will be the new standard trigger in all M&P in the future. Hope so.

    Reliable, Accurate, Comfortable, easy to shoot. I trust my M&P's. Glad you like yours.
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    • #3
      timmyb21
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 1814

      My M&P FS 9mm has a horrible trigger, to the point that I really pull low and left on the shot, something that my M&P9c has not done after a few hundred rounds. The trigger on the FS is heavy on the break, I may just pull it apart and polish it up, get everything smoothed out before I spend the money on the apex stuff. Function is flawless so far. When I get real frustrated I just switch to the 1911 and shoot the center out of the target at 25 yards!
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      • #4
        Fherot
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 920

        M&P's are beautiful guns and very comfortable, my mom liked my 45 fullsize more than firing her snub .38 special.

        However it is a Glock clone (highest form of flattery - not a bad thing) with a few flaws in my opinion to set it apart from Glocks despite some of the nicer things. M&P felt like it melted into my hand snugly.

        I decided I didn't want to invest in more Apex or need a hammer and roll pin punches to do full assemblies. Traded it to a fellow Calgunner on Friday for a '06 Gen 3 Glock 30 with night sights and I am really looking forward to it.

        My three pistols are now Glock 26, Glock 23C, Glock 30.

        Those are all the polymers I like, practice with one platform with minimal flaws. Now I need a 100% steel pistol eventually... Either a CZ or a 1911.

        (I've never even fired or held a 1911..............)

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        • #5
          Bug Splat
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2007
          • 6561

          1911's are beautiful guns. Classic American beauty. That said they are overrated. GASP! I know, I know its blasphemy. They are difficult to tune and require a lot of upkeep. Great to have and show off to friends but I would not take one to war with so many more reliable pistols to pick from.

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          • #6
            daybreak
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 1735

            No target pics? Thanks for the report bugsplat. I was looking at an M&P9 for the longest time.

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            • #7
              Bug Splat
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2007
              • 6561

              Originally posted by daybreak
              No target pics? Thanks for the report bugsplat. I was looking at an M&P9 for the longest time.
              Was planning on it but forgot and let my daughter shoot. My groupings were comparable to my glock, 1 inch at 10 yards. Not bad.

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              • #8
                ZX-10R
                Veteran Member
                • May 2010
                • 4122

                As I have mentioned recently, I was at APEX meeting with them and they had a tricked out M&P 45 with everything on it. Level 4 service as they called it...I racked mine...Used to the crap trigger. Was handed the other M&P 45 tricked out...Next thing you know my M&P 45 was given to them for that same set up. It is a huge difference and will make my M&P that much better and it is already my 2nd favorite handgun...I tried glocks by the way and the grip is just brutal. I won't say you will get used to the M&P stock trigger because you may or you may not...I did until I tried the whole APEX trigger...I cannot wait since it genuinely felt like my Colt which was also with me at their shop.

                congrats and good luck...My daughter won't shoot...You are lucky but then again everyone likes what they like.
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                • #9
                  nocomply25
                  Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 273

                  love my m&P 9 man! great gun, very reliable and fun to shoot. I purchased from a guy with an apex comp kit. The thing was like 2.5 trigger pull...changed the striker spring and got it above 3. its a very crisp trigger and has a good reset. It does not however have the reset of the glock, but if you pretend you never tried the glock reset, then the apex one is nice. I am now going to be changing some other springs to bring the pull to over 4 pounds because this is a SD gun. Congrats on yours! welcome to the other side! we have converted another glock GUY! YA!! lol

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                  • #10
                    Bug Splat
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 6561

                    Just remembered that I forgot to oil it before shooting. I had cleaned the gun of all oils the day before. Still ate 250 rds no problem.

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                    • #11
                      daybreak
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1735

                      Originally posted by Bug Splat
                      Just remembered that I forgot to oil it before shooting. I had cleaned the gun of all oils the day before. Still ate 250 rds no problem.
                      that's what I love about polymer.

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                      • #12
                        Dannicus
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 2577

                        Originally posted by daybreak
                        that's what I love about polymer.
                        Has nothing to do with polymer.

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                        • #13
                          Lsx2
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 581

                          Thanks for the write up, looking to get one of these and will be adding the Apex parts.

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                          • #14
                            daybreak
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1735

                            Originally posted by Dannicus
                            Has nothing to do with polymer.
                            Do polymer guns need just as much lube as all steel guns?

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                            • #15
                              Bug Splat
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 6561

                              Originally posted by daybreak
                              Do polymer guns need just as much lube as all steel guns?
                              My findings say no. Small contact points allow the poly pistols to function longer when dry.

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