Anyone else have problems with Winchester Ranger in Glocks?

[Shenaniguns]

Ranger-T is considered cheap ammo? TC, I know you really like Glocks but they are not infallible. Hence the current ejection/extraction problems.

[tuna quesadilla]

FTFY! No need to bring up other calibers or guns w/o a light attached.

Hey Shenaniguns.

Please improve your reading comprehension.

Did you not see how I BOLDED AND PUT IN RED "with a TLR-1 attached"?

YES, it is a known issue with .40 cal Gen3 Glocks with lights mounted. PERIOD.

[Shenaniguns]

Hey Shenaniguns.

Please improve your reading comprehension.

Did you not see how I BOLDED AND PUT IN RED "with a TLR-1 attached"?

YES, it is a known issue with .40 cal Gen3 Glocks with lights mounted. PERIOD.

Hey tuna chimmichanga, I made your specific post even better

[tacticalcity]

Ranger-T is considered cheap ammo? TC, I know you really like Glocks but they are not infallible. Hence the current ejection/extraction problems.

Your response completely mischaracterizes my opinions, and my post. Since this is not the first time you've done it, and ignored my polite requests not to do so, it is starting to annoy the hell out of me.

I'm sorry you are butt hurt that I dislike your favorite flavor of gun. But I am not a "fanboy". I am a fan, to be sure. But I am a fan of a long list of guns. I am more than happy to list everything I dislike about Glocks. I am also happy to list all the things I like about a long list of other guns. I've done so here on Calguns for years. Fanboys don't do that. They only see the good, and dismiss the bad. That is not me. Never has been. Yet somehow, in the past two years a new crop of guys who got butt hurt that I either dislike DA/SA's or didn't abandon the Glock for their favorite flavor of the latest Glock copy have gone way out of their way to twist and turn everything I post around. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings...but back the heck off already.

If you want to hate Glocks, feel free. You are entitled to your opinion. But stop making it about me. Stop twisting what I post into something it is not. I am just as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours. Frankly, I'm starting to feel like I have a stalker. It is really creepy.

[tuna quesadilla]

Hey tuna chimmichanga, I made your specific post even better

Now there's an idea...

[Shenaniguns]

Probably the dumbest post you will make all year. You being a hater doesn't make me a fanboy.

Just because I don't like your favorite gun as much as you do doesn't give you the right to follow me around calguns posting nasty responses to my posts that completely mischaracterize both my opinions, and my posts.

What? My favorite gun currently is this:




A. You make a silly posts, I and others disagree with you and you get your feelings hurt.
B. Hater? No I'm a realist.
C. You make things up... Don't do that or someone will call you out on it.
Just like now, thinking I'm going out of my way to pick apart your posts but didn't you make that claim of other local members?
D. Toughen up a little bit if you think anything I've ever said to you is an attack.

[Shenaniguns]

Sweet edit...

Your response completely mischaracterizes my opinions, and my post. Since this is not the first time you've done it, and ignored my polite requests not to do so, it is starting to annoy the hell out of me.

I'm sorry you are butt hurt that I dislike your favorite flavor of gun. But I am not a "fanboy". I am a fan, to be sure. But I am a fan of a long list of guns. I am more than happy to list everything I dislike about Glocks. I am also happy to list all the things I like about a long list of other guns. I've done so here on Calguns for years. Yet somehow, in the past two years a new crop of guys who got butt hurt that I either dislike DA/SA's or didn't abandon the Glock for their favorite flavor of the latest Glock copy have gone way out of their way to twist and turn everything I post around. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings...but back the heck off.

If you want to hate Glocks, feel free. You are entitled to your opinion. But stop making it about me. Stop twisting what I post into something it is not. I am just as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours.

A. The problem I had with you and the M&P was that YOU said something that was incorrect over and over again after I corrected you and even included video of my gun. You claimed that it had no reset and that you had to let the trigger all the way out to shoot, there are dozens of members that will verify this.

B. I've been here almost as long as you, so the new people the past 2 years is not me obviously.

C. Nobody is twisting your posts except you and your reply or edit button.

D. Try the ignore feature since you're too easily offended.

E. I never called you a Fanboy, but obviously someone else has.

[tacticalcity]

What? My favorite gun currently is this:

A. You make a silly posts, I and others disagree with you and you get your feelings hurt.
B. Hater? No I'm a realist.
C. You make things up... Don't do that or someone will call you out on it.
Just like now, thinking I'm going out of my way to pick apart your posts but didn't you make that claim of other local members?
D. Toughen up a little bit if you think anything I've ever said to you is an attack.

What did I make up? That is a bold accusation. So provide evidence. What in my above post was made up?

Aside from assuming your personal attack had some actual justification because of my vocal criticism of things I dislike about about other guns what in my post was made up, factually incorrect, or even remotely fanboyish?

Your post slammed me, and had nothing to do with my post. You hit and run with a personal attack that has nothing to with my post and provides no counters to my points just an insult and then you paint me out as the bad guy when I call you on it? But because I take offense to something offensive I'm the jerk here? Nice.

[Travis590A1]

Another awsome thread! Its never to early for popcorn!

[Baconator]

No, I've had no issues running .40 Winchester ranger in either Glock 23 or 27.

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[tacticalcity]

A. The problem I had with you and the M&P was that YOU said something that was incorrect over and over again after I corrected you and even included video of my gun. You claimed that it had no reset and that you had to let the trigger all the way out to shoot, there are dozens of members that will verify this.

B. I've been here almost as long as you, so the new people the past 2 years is not me obviously.

C. Nobody is twisting your posts except you and your reply or edit button.

D. Try the ignore feature since you're too easily offended.

E. I never called you a Fanboy, but obviously someone else has.

Two years ago is the first time I remember hearing from you. It is also the time I pissed off a group of Glock haters who feel the DA/SA is God's gift to man. Those guys are still annoyed with me and follow me around like stalkers. So my confusion was only natural.

While your post did not use the word fanboy, it certainly characterized me as such. As did your follow up posts. Which also called me a liar but didn't use that exact word either.

With regards to the M&P...you're talking about my complaints about the reset are you not?

Now that's irony for you. After your response I modified my future posts to include a disclaimer that people who knew the M&P better than I did had reassured me I was incorrect about the length of the reset on the M&P and I wasn't sure why my limited first hand experience differed from theirs. I said I continued to have my doubts, and would need more trigger time before I made up my mind about it.

About a month ago I figured out what the issue was that I was experiencing. The M&P resets earlier than I thought, however because it does not have a noticeable click that you both hear and feel the way you do with the Glock (and every other gun I have ever handled) it is easy not to notice that it has reset. I kept waiting for that click, and it never came. So I kept releasing the trigger. Next thing I knew the trigger was all the way released. I even went back to that gun shop (TSD in Rocklin) and tried out the same M&P, and still the trigger released all the way without my feeling or hearing a reset. It never occurred to me to stop releasing the trigger at various points along the way and trying to pull it, because the idea that a reset would not be extremely noticeable had not occurred to me.

This was such a common end-user complaint that S&W changed their trigger on the M&P Shield which has a very noticeable click on reset that you both hear and feel. The video reviews on the Shield that I've watched say that all future versions of the M&P will have the revised trigger they introduced with the shield. I don't know if that means they will put them in existing models in future years, or if they will just put them in new variants they come up with.

In any case, it is ironic that your main beef with me is something a lot of people, not just myself were confused about. It is not like I am the only idiot on the planet who got confused by the M&P's nearly silent reset. It's not like your post spelled out that it was there, I just couldn't feel or hear it. You just said it was there (assuming I am remembering correctly as that was at least a year or longer ago). But I did take your comments to heart and did revise my future posts to reflect what you told me. I didn't completely bow to your wisdom, but I did spell out that others like your self held a different opinion and I needed more trigger time before I could confirm my initial opinion. Frankly, that is more than fair to you. So I don't get your beef there.

I use the edit button a lot because I have dyslexia along with several other things that mess up my reading comprehension. So I have to read, and reread a post 50 times before it is even remotely legible or says what I mean for it to say. I edit a lot because the grammar and spelling Nazis will be on my case if I don’t. Occasionally I will catch myself saying something I do not mean, and I will revise the post accordingly. I’d like to think that is normal.

[Sturnovik]

Take the light off, it's a known issue. My favorite defense ammo is ranger and gold dot, it's high quality stuff and consistent. I know taking the light off isn't what you want to hear OP, but this has been an issue with some glocks. Some people had wolf or extra coil coil springs fix it, but not all people had good luck with that. If you don't want that, send it back to glock.

It should be able to run with a light.

[deadcoyote]

We use it for work and have no issues.

[tacticalcity]

Sounds like the first step in diagnosing this problem is removing the light. Not owning a 40S&W Gen 3, I had never encountered or heard this complaint. Learn something new every day.

Having to use a handheld light will not be the end of the world. It's not as easy, but there are a lot of techniques that work well. My last two Glocks in a long line of them have been Gen 2s and the 1911 I recently sold didn't have a rail either. So it has been a while since I had the luxury of a slip-on light on my handguns. If this turns out to be the cause of the problem, you'll still get buy alright. Though I can imagine after spending the money on the light it would be disapointing. Hopefully you have other guns in the stable to become a new home for light.

[HighLander51]

So I just ordered 1500 rounds of Ranger .40 cal, and had 4 failure to feeds out of 100 rounds in a clean, well broken in Glock 22. .

I have run over 20,000 rounds of Winchester Ranger between my 2 Glock 22's, one has the Insight M3 light, and never had issues. When you remove your weapon light, does it run ok?