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  • jagergirll
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 6

    1911 A1 discharge question

    So I carry a 1911 A1 at work in a level two holster I had a couple of questions. I was wondering if something hit the firing pin while the hammer was still locked if it would set off the round? I am considering buying a level 3 to protect the firing pin not for retention.

    Thanks
  • #2
    Press Check
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 4879

    Possible, yes. Probable, no.

    Some agencies require a barrier between the hammer and pin to prevent an AD, so the Serpa Level 3 would definitely resolve that issue.

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    • #3
      CC Gunsmithing
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 649

      Many holsters for the 1911 have a strap and button closure that covers the firing pin in condition one carry... Why is something that close to your firearm is my question...
      http://ccgunsmithing.webs.com/

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      • #4
        hermosabeach
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19721

        The colt 80 series has a firing pin block so that pressure must also be on the trigger.
        I guess the next question should be, who made your gun and does it have a firing pin safety / block?

        In total, the United States procured around 2.7 million M1911 and M1911A1 pistols in military contracts during its service life
        Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

        Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

        Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

        Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
        (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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        • #5
          CC Gunsmithing
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 649

          ?
          http://ccgunsmithing.webs.com/

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          • #6
            edwardm
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 1939

            Originally posted by CC Gunsmithing
            ?
            QFT.

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            • #7
              Turbinator
              Administrator
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 11951

              Originally posted by hermosabeach
              I guess the next question should be, who made your gun and does it have a firing pin safety / block?
              Yup - who made your firearm, OP? And what exact model is it?

              Turby

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              • #8
                Chief-7700
                Veteran Member
                • May 2008
                • 3382

                Originally posted by jagergirll
                So I carry a 1911 A1 at work in a level two holster I had a couple of questions. I was wondering if something hit the firing pin while the hammer was still locked if it would set off the round? I am considering buying a level 3 to protect the firing pin not for retention.

                Thanks
                If you need to ask the questions above consider carrying different gun.

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                • #9
                  jagergirll
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 6

                  It's a RIA 1911 A1. I am super comfortable with the gun I was just trying to find out what amount of pressure would be needed to set off a round.

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                  • #10
                    CC Gunsmithing
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 649

                    It's not just about the pressure, primers are impact sensitive, meaning you have to whack it pretty hard to get it to go off... Does the holster you carry in have a button closure over the firing pin in condition one?
                    http://ccgunsmithing.webs.com/

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                    • #11
                      Brandon04GT
                      In Memoriam
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 3016

                      Not only that but since 1911's use intertial firing pins, that "something" hitting the back of the firing pin would basically have to be as thin as the firing pin itself for the primer to go off. It would have to strike the back of the firing pin and go slightly through the hole in the firing pin stop.

                      Anotherwards, if you had your hammer uncocked and you kept pounding the back of the hammer with something, it would be unlikely to set the primer off. The 1911 firing pin is never in contact with the hammer and the round's primer at the exact same time.

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                      • #12
                        CC Gunsmithing
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 649

                        what he said, inertial, it's held back by a spring, so something has to fit between the extractor and opposite side of the slide, and strike the pin hard enough to send it forward hard enough to detonate the primer... Again, if the holster is made for a 1911, there should be a strap that covers the firing pin...
                        http://ccgunsmithing.webs.com/

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                        • #13
                          Brandon04GT
                          In Memoriam
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 3016

                          I love 1911s

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                          • #14
                            CC Gunsmithing
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 649

                            I'm kinda partial to them myself, Here's one I built...
                            http://ccgunsmithing.webs.com/

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                            • #15
                              Brandon04GT
                              In Memoriam
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 3016

                              Very cool....I don't really have the resources or know-how to build my own yet but hopefully I can not too many years from now.

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