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  • SGTKane
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 249

    Glock 23, 10+1 question

    Since getting my CCW, I've been carrying my Glock 23, the sub compact .40. Given that I'm in CA, my mag holds ten and yesterday at the range I decided I was going to try 10+1 (one in the chamber plus a full mag).

    Didn't workout for me very well. In the 10+1 configuration, the Glock would fire, but not eject the spent round. I was also unable to do a rack-tap as the slide would not move more than a couple of centimeters to rear until I dropped the mag.

    This happened with all three of my mags (two that came with the Glock, and one that I purchased a month ago). Does anyone know if this is a common problem or am I just lucky?

    I'm using 40 Hornady TAP FPD, 155 Grain XTP Jacketed Hollow Point rounds.
    Last edited by SGTKane; 05-24-2012, 2:08 PM. Reason: Added ammo info
  • #2
    teflondog
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 4011

    Originally posted by SGTKane
    Since getting my CCW, I've been carrying my Glock 23, the sub compact .40. Given that I'm in CA, my mag holds ten and yesterday at the range I decided I was going to try 10+1 (one in the chamber plus a full mag).

    Didn't workout for me very well. In the 10+1 configuration, the Glock would fire, but not eject the spent round. I was also unable to do a rack-tap as the slide would not move more than a couple of centimeters to rear until I dropped the mag.
    This happened with all three of my mags (two that came with the Glock, and one that I purchased a month ago). Does anyone know if this is a common problem or am I just lucky?

    I'm using 40 Hornady TAP FPD, 155 Grain XTP Jacketed Hollow Point rounds.
    This happened to me before with new magazines. After the strong mag springs got broken in, it didn't happen anymore.

    Does the ejection problem happen with 180gr ammo? Sometimes you need heavier loads to properly cycle the action.
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    • #3
      Turo
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2009
      • 5066

      Just an FYI, the Glock 23 is the "compact" model. The "sub-compact" model is the 27.

      I've never had the issue mentioned, so I can't really give advice on that.
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      • #4
        DVSmith
        Cantankerous old coot
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2007
        • 3702

        I have not had this problem but I had a friend ask me about it as it happened with his GLOCK. I suggested he try adding the finger extension to the mag and see if it helped loosen the spring any. He hasn't gotten back to me on that yet.

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        • #5
          killathrilla
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 1330

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          Last edited by killathrilla; 01-06-2013, 10:37 AM.

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          • #6
            Kodemonkey
            • Jun 2010
            • 2904

            Kudos to you for actually testing that configuration if that is the way you are carrying. I'm liking teflondog's theory. Only thing that really makes sense.

            Don't be insulted, but you are inserting a "top off mag", racking the slide, and then putting in a full 10 rounder right? Just making sure that you aren't dropping a free round into the chamber by hand. I can see that being a problem if the extractor claw not making it all the way over the cartridge lip and causing what you are seeing.

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            • #7
              Szabi B
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 59

              keep your mags loaded, for a week or so or longer, and try to break the gun in with some 180 gr loads

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              • #8
                Bullwhip55
                Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 224

                I shoot IDPA (Glock 23), Usually one of the first comands is "Load and Make Ready". I insert a full mag and then rack one into the chamber, drop that mag and run a full 10 rounder back in.NEVER ANY KIND OF A PROBLEM, except that I miss once in a while.

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                • #9
                  SGTKane
                  Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 249

                  Alright, I'll keep the mags loaded for a week or so, only unloading them as I send rounds down range. And yes, I'm loading a mag, chambering a round, and then putting a fresh mag and topping off the other one.

                  @Kodemonkey, yeah I'm a big believer in "train as you fight, because you are going to fight as you train". The worst thing you can do I think is to pick up new gear, or a new techinque and plan on it working when you need it without ever practicing with it.

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                  • #10
                    Travis590A1
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 5233

                    A glock that malfunctions?! Noooooooooooooooooo! <------ (head explodes)

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                    • #11
                      SGTKane
                      Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 249

                      Travis, never fear, the first round went bang when I pulled the trigger.

                      But oddly enough, when I put in the lone wolf 9mm conversion barrel, I could do 10+1 with the 9mm. Or rather I could rack it and have it eject the chambered round and chamber the next round. No live fire testing though, because my wife frowns upon pistols being fired in the house.

                      So it might be more of an ammo issue than a Glock one anyway.

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                      • #12
                        SGTKane
                        Member
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 249

                        Travis, never fear, the first round went bang when I pulled the trigger.

                        But oddly enough, when I put in the lone wolf 9mm conversion barrel, I could do 10+1 with the 9mm. Or rather I could rack it and have it eject the chambered round and chamber the next round. No live fire testing though, because my wife frowns upon pistols being fired in the house.

                        So it might be more of an ammo issue than a Glock one anyway.

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