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  • Bug Splat
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2007
    • 6561

    M&P remove mag disconnect question

    Planning on picking up a M&P 45 in the next 30 days. Doing a ton of research on it. I want to remove the mag disconnect of course and while watching videos and reading how-to's i'm confused. Why are these guys putting a new longer spring in place of the disconnect arm? Why even reinstall the sear disconnect? Why not just push the lower pin out and throw the pin and all the parts its holding in the trash? That sear disconnect is the second stupidest thing on the pistol right behind the mag disconnect. Can't the slide be removed from the frame just by pulling the trigger like every other striker pistol in the world? Seems like a bunch of useless junk just waiting to break and jam the pistol. Am I missing something here or are people putting extra work into re-installing a worthless part?
  • #2
    Sam
    Calguns Addict
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2008
    • 5205

    I took out the sear and mag disconnect levers on mine. Super simple to do. Just dry fire before taking the slide off. I've found no problems doing it this way. You could get a 1911 magazine release spring to reinstall the sear disconnect, but why bother?

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    • #3
      Bug Splat
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2007
      • 6561

      Originally posted by Sam
      I took out the sear and mag disconnect levers on mine. Super simple to do. Just dry fire before taking the slide off. I've found no problems doing it this way. You could get a 1911 magazine release spring to reinstall the sear disconnect, but why bother?
      Yeah thats what I thought. Just more crap to break right? So by removing it I'm just making so the slide will come off via trigger pull and not that stupid lever?

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      • #4
        Sam
        Calguns Addict
        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2008
        • 5205

        Originally posted by Bug Splat
        Yeah thats what I thought. Just more crap to break right? So by removing it I'm just making so the slide will come off via trigger pull and not that stupid lever?
        Pretty much. It's my understanding that it was included as a feature to compete with Glocks and get around the need to dry fire Glocks and so avoid negligent discharges.

        Sorry, they are called sear deactivation levers and not sear disconnects.

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        • #5
          TheThousands
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 581

          Are there any legal implications with removing the mag disconnect? I really like how the M&P's feel/shoot but the disconnect is the one thing keeping me from purchasing one.

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          • #6
            Sam
            Calguns Addict
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2008
            • 5205

            Originally posted by TheThousands
            Are there any legal implications with removing the mag disconnect? I really like how the M&P's feel/shoot but the disconnect is the one thing keeping me from purchasing one.
            People like to speculate that attorneys may attempt to use gun modifications against you if you used the gun in a self defense situation. Until someone brings me a cited case of this happening I am skeptical of this position. Without getting into a discussion of California self defense law, gun modification does not impact any of the requirements necessary to assert self defense as a defense to the killing or battery of an aggressor.

            Outside of this area of law, you may modify a gun as long as it does not turn that gun into an illegal type. Having a gun without a magazine disconnect and a sear deactivation lever is perfectly fine.

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            • #7
              ILVSMOG
              insert clever title here
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Sep 2009
              • 611

              I just used a spare 1911 mag release spring and kept the sear deactivation. It works just fine. S&W offers the same pistol w/o the mag safety from the factory (just not on the CA roster) so I didn't feel too bad about removing mine.

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              • #8
                Fherot
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 920

                I wish I had thought of this when I installed the Apex hard sear a couple nights ago, I really don't feel like taking it apart again before I've fired it...

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                • #9
                  LBDamned
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 19040

                  but wait guys...

                  Kalifornia Dictators know better than we do about what's safe right?...

                  "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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