1 new handgun added - Staccato -10/23/25

[S.A.]

Staccato 3.6”



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[Garbcollector]

I think it uses glock 19 mags

[Capybara]

I've never understood the obsession with having guns that all take the same mags, to a point. It's convenient, it saves a few bucks, but some people will absolutely not consider any gun unless it takes their cheap, plastic $20 Glook mags, I don't get it?
if I'm willing to drop $2,300 on a carry pistol, is it going to break the bank if I have to drop another $100-$200 on a few mags for it? What's the logic here? Is this just another one of those sheeple marketing angles? Or in Commifornia is it because so
many have Freedom Week mags and cannot buy any more standard capacity mags? I guess for Commifornians, that would make sense?

[dfens]

I am pretty tempted to buy one, the CA model will probably be 2500 with the DLC barrel. Seems like the ultimate carry gun but my county doesn't allow you to use freedom week mags so I would be stuck with 10 rounders on a gun similar in size to my Glock 19.

Could be a bedside gun but I would like to try one or handle one in person first unfortunately Staccato has a limited amount of authorized dealers so you can't really go down to your local shop and see one in person.

[k1dude]

I've never understood the obsession with having guns that all take the same mags, to a point. It's convenient, it saves a few bucks, but some people will absolutely not consider any gun unless it takes their cheap, plastic $20 Glook mags, I don't get it?
if I'm willing to drop $2,300 on a carry pistol, is it going to break the bank if I have to drop another $100-$200 on a few mags for it? What's the logic here? Is this just another one of those sheeple marketing angles? Or in Commifornia is it because so
many have Freedom Week mags and cannot buy any more standard capacity mags? I guess for Commifornians, that would make sense?

It's not only the cost and compatibility benefits. 2011 mags are notoriously finicky and not always cross compatible. Very few companies make a reliable 2011 mag. It's improved dramatically the past couple years, but it took forever to get to this point.

Glock mags are not only ubiquitous, but cheap, widely available in any store, durable, reliable, and easily repaired or modded with OEM or aftermarket products. Not so with 2011 mags.

[Garbcollector]

Hopefully they bring some full size models to the roster like the xc

[Garbcollector]

It's not only the cost and compatibility benefits. 2011 mags are notoriously finicky and not always cross compatible. Very few companies make a reliable 2011 mag. It's improved dramatically the past couple years, but it took forever to get to this point.

Glock mags are not only ubiquitous, but cheap, widely available in any store, durable, reliable, and easily repaired or modded with OEM or aftermarket products. Not so with 2011 mags.

This

[Capybara]

It's not only the cost and compatibility benefits. 2011 mags are notoriously finicky and not always cross compatible. Very few companies make a reliable 2011 mag. It's improved dramatically the past couple years, but it took forever to get to this point.

Glock mags are not only ubiquitous, but cheap, widely available in any store, durable, reliable, and easily repaired or modded with OEM or aftermarket products. Not so with 2011 mags.

Not owning a 2011, I didn't know that. I assumed that Stacatto and at least the popular other 2011s would have had their magazine act together by now but evidently not.

[Capybara]

I am pretty tempted to buy one, the CA model will probably be 2500 with the DLC barrel. Seems like the ultimate carry gun but my county doesn't allow you to use freedom week mags so I would be stuck with 10 rounders on a gun similar in size to my Glock 19.

Could be a bedside gun but I would like to try one or handle one in person first unfortunately Staccato has a limited amount of authorized dealers so you can't really go down to your local shop and see one in person.

Pretty expensive gun for CCW. If you did ever have to use it, it can be questionable about when and if you ever get it back. I haven't experienced, but I have heard a lot of people that has happened to that either never get it back or it takes literally years to get it back but I don't know that for a fact. To me, a CCW is like a burner phone, it's disposable and as long as it works, I don't care if I lose it because its so easily replaceable.

[BigStiCK]

So I own 3 Staccatos and they are legit. I've run all of them in competition and they have been boringly reliable. They've really upped their game and the old-school magazine reliability lottery is a thing of the past. I have not handled the new HD series BUT I completely understand the 'why'. Glock mags are a cheap, battle tested system. People own a ton of them. A Stacc HD will be a huge step up from any Glock if your preference is the 1911/2011 platform & ergos. I would NOT use it as a carry gun unless you're ok with giving it away forever should you use it in a defensive scenario. I carry my glocks & CZs. I compete with my Staccs.

[Grendel Guy]

Capy, I'm thinking the same would apply for a weapon used for HD.

[oddball]

Not owning a 2011, I didn't know that. I assumed that Stacatto and at least the popular other 2011s would have had their magazine act together by now but evidently not.

They have their sh*t together in regards to mags. Before Staccato was created, STI was the name of the company, and their mags were notoriously bad, they had to be tuned all of the time to get thru a match, leading to the sometimes exaggerated reputation of 2011 mags. When Staccato got rolling as a company, completely separate from STI, they had their proprietary magazines made elsewhere, and have been reliable since. My Staccato P is almost four years old, I bought it in early 2022, and never had a failure with the magazines both 17 rds and 20 rd mags after over 1500 rds. Made of steel, they are pricier than Glock mags (and FYI, I've had a couple of Glock mag failures). I trust this setup to the extent it has replaced my Gen5 G17 as my primary defense pistol in the house. But IMO, getting a Staccato is a waste in CA because the huge advantage the pistol brings is the magazine capacity; 10 rounds or less severely neuters it. In CA, I'd rather get a decent 1911 in .45acp. For carry, I use a Sig P238, basically a micro 1911.

[jarhead714]

If Staccato had been introduced just a few months earlier in late 2018 instead of 2019, the Freedom Week clause would be in effect. Pity..

[acaligunner]

I've never understood the obsession with having guns that all take the same mags, to a point. It's convenient, it saves a few bucks, but some people will absolutely not consider any gun unless it takes their cheap, plastic $20 Glook mags, I don't get it?
if I'm willing to drop $2,300 on a carry pistol, is it going to break the bank if I have to drop another $100-$200 on a few mags for it? What's the logic here? Is this just another one of those sheeple marketing angles? Or in Commifornia is it because so
many have Freedom Week mags and cannot buy any more standard capacity mags? I guess for Commifornians, that would make sense?

From what I’ve heard ~ 9mm / 2011 mags / pistols are kinda iffy on ho w they work and / or they are expensive to buy ( because of all the precision work that needs to be used to work welll ) .

The Glock magazine simply works and remember it is a steel lined mag that is wrapped in polymer, and has been proven to be durable as well as reliable.

Mfg’s know this, and it just might be easier for them to make a pistol that works with Glock mags ( to get that reliably ), along with keeping the cost of a mag that’s below $100 ( give or take ).

Also, a lot of gunners have Glock mags, so it is also a marketing ploy for them to wave that in front of Glockers.

At least that’s what I’ve heard.

[k1dude]

They have their sh*t together in regards to mags. Before Staccato was created, STI was the name of the company, and their mags were notoriously bad, they had to be tuned all of the time to get thru a match, leading to the sometimes exaggerated reputation of 2011 mags. When Staccato got rolling as a company, completely separate from STI, they had their proprietary magazines made elsewhere, and have been reliable since. My Staccato P is almost four years old, I bought it in early 2022, and never had a failure with the magazines both 17 rds and 20 rd mags after over 1500 rds. Made of steel, they are pricier than Glock mags (and FYI, I've had a couple of Glock mag failures). I trust this setup to the extent it has replaced my Gen5 G17 as my primary defense pistol in the house. But IMO, getting a Staccato is a waste in CA because the huge advantage the pistol brings is the magazine capacity; 10 rounds or less severely neuters it. In CA, I'd rather get a decent 1911 in .45acp. For carry, I use a Sig P238, basically a micro 1911.

Then you got lucky. Gen 1 and 2 mags have had many problems for most people. It wasn't until the Staccato Gen 3 mags came out in 2022 that most of the reliability problems went away. Some other makes of 2011 pistols still have some problem mags.