SIG sends out damage control email about the P320 7/29/2025

[Tahoeshooter]

As far as I'm aware, nobody has been able to actually replicate the problem in their tests. Therefore they don't know what to change in the design, or if anything actually needs to be changed. Its always easy to say a company doesn't care, the CEO should be fired, etc., (and I'm not saying that isn't the case here), but stop and think about it...If Sig knows there is an actual problem that they can address even if it costs them 10s of millions, is it really plausible that they would continue to expand the pool of liability by continuing to offer the product, when down the line if someone proved a design flaw the losses would much higher? Just pondering the issue. They could just quietly stop offering them for public sale and complete any contracts they have and call it quits, replacing them with a new model or just continuing to sell the hell out of 365 variants. Depending on configuration (XL, Fuse, AXG frame, weights, etc) the 365 really has no downside compared to a 320 for civilian and even LEO use. Who knows, maybe they'll do this.

I have a few 320s, and I've never had a problem, they are great shooters, but I am open to any actual performance test data and like many feel that where there's smoke there is quite possibly fire. So we all sit waiting for more test data and explanations. I have not seen any update on the US Airman who was initially reported to have been killed by a 320 UD, other than another service member was arrested. I would like to know every detail of the actual incident.

[Tahoeshooter]

As far as I'm aware, nobody has been able to actually replicate the problem in their tests. Therefore they don't know what to change in the design, or if anything actually needs to be changed. Its always easy to say a company doesn't care, the CEO should be fired, etc., (and I'm not saying that isn't the case here), but stop and think about it...If Sig knows there is an actual problem that they can address even if it costs them 10s of millions, is it really plausible that they would continue to expand the pool of liability by continuing to offer the product, when down the line if someone proved a design flaw the losses would much higher? Just pondering the issue. They could just quietly stop offering them for public sale and complete any contracts they have and call it quits, replacing them with a new model or just continuing to sell the hell out of 365 variants. Depending on configuration (XL, Fuse, AXG frame, weights, etc) the 365 really has no downside compared to a 320 for civilian and even LEO use. Who knows, maybe they'll do this.

I have a few 320s, and I've never had a problem, they are great shooters, but I am open to any actual performance test data and like many feel that where there's smoke there is quite possibly fire. So we all sit waiting for more test data and explanations. I have not seen any update on the US Airman who was initially reported to have been killed by a 320 UD, other than another service member was arrested. I would like to know every detail of the actual incident.

[Scotty]

The FE Warren incident was probably horseplay. The one charged was also charged with falsifying a report. They had TWO shootings in less than a month. Drunk guy picks up an AK, racks it and pulls the trigger killing another airman in the next room.

[k1dude]

I notice everything P320 seems to be on sale these days. From the guns, to holsters, to mags, to aftermarket upgrades. I guess sales of all that P320 stuff has come to a screeching halt.

[sigfan91]

I notice everything P320 seems to be on sale these days. From the guns, to holsters, to mags, to aftermarket upgrades. I guess sales of all that P320 stuff has come to a screeching halt.

I’m willing to take over one for $300 😁

[Grendel Guy]

I’m willing to take over one for $300 😁

I'll do it for tree-fiddy!

[sigfan91]

I'll do it for tree-fiddy!

Wait…I don’t think that’s how bidding works.

[Barang]

just put a longer screw and wiggle the slide more and put down your iphone. puhleeze, people!

[eaglemike]

This guy tried to duplicate the FBI test. Looks like some monkey business somewhere.
Kinda thought that might be happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8TB_51bWtM

[rsrocket1]

I’m willing to take over one for $300 😁

AIM Surplus has LE trade ins for $299 for the 9mm Carry, Compact and the 40 full size.

[splithoof]

Here's something I like about CalGuns (in addition to just being a gun owner in CA itself).

CG is not brand loyal.

I'm a member of SigTalk and GlockTalk too (and 1911forum).

What I'm getting out is there is a lot of crickets over a SigTalk relatively speaking. They isolated the issue in the forum. Not entirely censored, but all boards do it that are brand specific shuffle away the topic into it's own out of sight thread that justifies squashing all other threads that start up.

We can rip across all brands here with equal impunity.

Yes, what you say makes me consider the various print media (gun magazines) bias towards advertisers and their products. You certainly don’t see too much negative press about how crappy the overall quality of various gun manufactures products has become. I could go on and on about the dog poop I’ve seen and dealt with, but that’s another day. About the only publication I recall that is worth two bits when it comes to reviews is Gun Tests. They used to have ratings, one of which said “Don’t Buy”. That was great. And they named names, called out the BS. Don’t know if they rated the P320 series or not, so we will see.
Just glad I don’t own one.

[Grendel Guy]

There used to be a publication (Gun Tests I think may have been the name) that wouldn't have advertisements from gun manufacturers in order to remain neutral. Just relief on subscriptions and bookstore sales. This was in the 80s to early 90s as I recall.

[eaglemike]

There used to be a publication (Gun Tests I think may have been the name) that wouldn't have advertisements from gun manufacturers in order to remain neutral. Just relief on subscriptions and bookstore sales. This was in the 80s to early 90s as I recall.

Yes, I think it's still around. I had a subscription for several years.

[sigfan91]

AIM Surplus has LE trade ins for $299 for the 9mm Carry, Compact and the 40 full size.

After shipping ($50), FFL fee ($100), CA tax ($60), DROS ($45), it would come out to be $550 🙁

[Snoopy47]

....... You certainly don’t see too much negative press about how crappy the overall quality of various gun manufactures products has become. I could go on and on about the dog poop I’ve seen and dealt with, but that’s another day........

I like Hickock45. He's overly nice, but it's easy to read between the lines. He might not say overtly negative things about a gun, but he certainly doesn't hide when he's fumbling with it, and dealing with excessive malfunctions.