Anyone carrying the new Rost Martin RM1C? Feedback on carrying and shooting?

[Capybara]

My CCW doesn't renew for a while and that's the only time I can add a gun to it but curious if any of you are carrying and shooting the Rost Martin? I like the idea of supporting a small, Texas based company, the reviews have been impressive. I also just found out that while the RM1C Comped isn't on the California Roster, one can purchase the compensated slide and barrel for $349 from Rost Martin, which is intriguing. I've been wanting to move from carrying my subcompacts to a compact pistol and will be picking up the Walther PDP Compact as soon as they arrive, I have one on pre-order, but I like having multiple guns on my CCW in case one breaks or for certain other factors so even though I anticipate carrying the Walther, I'm looking for a G19 sized pistol as a second tier carry gun.

Gav Boy is going to sign AB1127 momentarily so Glocks and Shadow Systems will be going away but I don't think that this ridiculous law will immediately affect the Walther and Rost Martin?

[Capybara]

So not too popular with the Calgunners, got it.

[pythonfan]

No experience, but I am curious as well. Bummer this wasn't an FCU style pistol.

[TheFlashG]

Bumping this up, because with the RM1C Comp being added to the roster, I'm curious if more are now intrigued by the Rost Martin pistols, and who may be considering adding one for either carry or range-only use.

[Capybara]

Bumping this up, because with the RM1C Comp being added to the roster, I'm curious if more are now intrigued by the Rost Martin pistols, and who may be considering adding one for either carry or range-only use.

I've looked at them several times, they seem great. But I was lured in by the Turners $299 special on the Derya DY9 instead. The fact that the Derya is going away because of AB1127 swayed me to get the Derya instead. I still have a year until my CCW renews so I still may pick up a Rost Martin. As far as comps on a CCW pistol, I won't go into detail but SHOOT one first. I have a couple of ported and comped pistols. Let's just say I am converting them to non-ported barrels and non comped barrels. MUCH louder, much dirtier, tons more muzzle flash to practice with and the supposedly ground breaking metrics on muzzle flip on either are negligible, barely perceptible. As far as I am concerned, porting and comped barrels are merely a fad to sell more guns in a saturated market, I find them to be a PITA to shoot in comparison to my normal guns.

I would lean more toward getting a comped competition pistol where every slight advantage is worth trying to improve times but on a CCW pistol, my advice is skip it. I'll never buy another for CCW.

[TheFlashG]

Thanks Capy! Appreciate your 'real world' experience with carry comps!

[Capybara]

Thanks Capy! Appreciate your 'real world' experience with carry comps!

Glad to be of help/It's just my opinion, I am sure we will see another reply to this insisting that a carry comp is indispensable, and that it's impossible to hit a good follow up shot without it. If possible, it would be good to go to a range that might be able to rent you a comped and non comped version of the same and experience it for yourself. Or if you have any shooting buddies who have one?

[TheFlashG]

Glad to be of help/ It's just my opinion, I am sure we will see another reply to this insisting that a carry comp is indispensable, and that it's impossible to hit a good follow up shot without it. If possible, it would be good to go to a range that might be able to rent you a comped and non comped version of the same and experience it for yourself. Or if you have any shooting buddies who have one?

I do have a retired LEO friend who has a Sig P365 Comp. I tried it, but had the same issue with that as I do with many of the small compact pistols these days (Shield, Hellcat, P365, etc.) -> the thin width high up on the backstrap just really hurts the web of my hand between thumb and forefinger.
No matter what grip or pressure/squeeze, etc. that I try, those thin width pistols hurt my hand.
I do have a couple Glock G26's and those at ~1.3" width are fine - it's only those that are ~1"-1.1" (or less) width that seem to bother my hand.

That's partially why I was curious about the Rost Martins - those are slim too, but maybe the shape of the backstrap may be different?
(e.g. the Hellcat has a more squared-off backstrap and the Shield's backstrap is actually more 'pointy' at the apex where the grip meets hand, so maybe the Rost Martin is more of a semi-circle or curved?) Shape is sometimes difficult to tell, even when doing a web search and doing the XXX vs. XXX with that site that does the side-by-side comparisons.

[Capybara]

I do have a retired LEO friend who has a Sig P365 Comp. I tried it, but had the same issue with that as I do with many of the small compact pistols these days (Shield, Hellcat, P365, etc.) -> the thin width high up on the backstrap just really hurts the web of my hand between thumb and forefinger.
No matter what grip or pressure/squeeze, etc. that I try, those thin width pistols hurt my hand.
I do have a couple Glock G26's and those at ~1.3" width are fine - it's only those that are ~1"-1.1" (or less) width that seem to bother my hand.

That's partially why I was curious about the Rost Martins - those are slim too, but maybe the shape of the backstrap may be different?
(e.g. the Hellcat has a more squared-off backstrap and the Shield's backstrap is actually more 'pointy' at the apex where the grip meets hand, so maybe the Rost Martin is more of a semi-circle or curved?) Shape is sometimes difficult to tell, even when doing a web search and doing the XXX vs. XXX with that site that does the side-by-side comparisons.

Are you near a Turners? I think you need to go down and hold one in your hand to determine how it sits in the web of your hand. I know what you mean about the Shield. I carry the Shield Plus PC version and my only complaint about it is it is almost too thin. I find the Glock G19 width to be easier to get a good grip with upon drawing, the Shield is so thin that I have to realign the grip in my palm to get as good of a grip as I get instantly with the wider pistols. That results in slower times to actually draw and shoot. Which is not good. That's largely why I am adding the G19, Derya DY9 and Walther PDP compact to my CCW, I am kind of over subcompacts. My Ruger Max 9 is smaller than the Shield too and it's even more difficult to draw with a good grip.

[TheFlashG]

Are you near a Turners? I think you need to go down and hold one in your hand to determine how it sits in the web of your hand. I know what you mean about the Shield. I carry the Shield Plus PC version and my only complaint about it is it is almost too thin. I find the Glock G19 width to be easier to get a good grip with upon drawing, the Shield is so thin that I have to realign the grip in my palm to get as good of a grip as I get instantly with the wider pistols. That results in slower times to actually draw and shoot. Which is not good. That's largely why I am adding the G19, Derya DY9 and Walther PDP compact to my CCW, I am kind of over subcompacts. My Ruger Max 9 is smaller than the Shield too and it's even more difficult to draw with a good grip.

Unfortunately, I'm in the Bay Area so not close to a Turners. (Closest is in Salinas.)
I do have one or two local shops that frequently have a decent amount of inventory (depending on their sales/promos) AND they also have a fair selection of rentals for their indoor range.
Hadn't looked at the Ruger Max9, so that's good to know that's a 'pass' too.
Do appreciate that you also find a thicker frame easier for a good grip and draw.
I tend to stay away from Turkish made pistols, but does the Derya have a better grip and a bit thicker? (I'll look at the XXX vs. XXX to get a quick compare, too.)

[Capybara]

The Max 9 is almost the same size as the stock P365, a tiny gun far too small for most hands unless you're a Hobbit. Nice to have as an option when having the smallest gun possible is a necessity for concealment but for daily carry, terrible.

The Derya DY9 grip is a bit narrower than my stock G19 grip, but just barely, It's thicker than the Shield by a significant amount. According to Handgun Hero, https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/...mory-derya-dy9
the Glock G19 grip is 1.26" wide while the Derya DY9 is 1.16" wide.

Just beware that the gas pedal on the Derya DY9 frame is slightly wider than the G19 forward of the trigger so the DY9 has a hard time fitting into a G19 G3 holster. I have a Clinger Hinge holster for my G19 and I tried shoving the Derya into it.
It goes in tight and is hard to take out. I have not yet messed with the retention screws on the Clinger, loosening them up might make the Derya fit better. I don't think there are a a lot of holster options for the DY9 yet but that will likely change
as it's basically a Glock G4 footprint, it might even fit better into a G4 specific holster? I don't have one to try.

[TheFlashG]

The Max 9 is almost the same size as the stock P365, a tiny gun far too small for most hands unless you're a Hobbit. Nice to have as an option when having the smallest gun possible is a necessity for concealment but for daily carry, terrible.

The Derya DY9 grip is a bit narrower than my stock G19 grip, but just barely, It's thicker than the Shield by a significant amount. According to Handgun Hero, https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/...mory-derya-dy9
the Glock G19 grip is 1.26" wide while the Derya DY9 is 1.16" wide.

Just beware that the gas pedal on the Derya DY9 frame is slightly wider than the G19 forward of the trigger so the DY9 has a hard time fitting into a G19 G3 holster. I have a Clinger Hinge holster for my G19 and I tried shoving the Derya into it.
It goes in tight and is hard to take out. I have not yet messed with the retention screws on the Clinger, loosening them up might make the Derya fit better. I don't think there are a a lot of holster options for the DY9 yet but that will likely change
as it's basically a Glock G4 footprint, it might even fit better into a G4 specific holster? I don't have one to try.

Thanks Capy -> question about the DY9:
I was looking at their website and up high on the backstrap, there appears to be a rivet or some type of fastener that also has some semicircular cut-outs around it - right where the web of the shooting hand goes. Have you handled the DY9 and can you feel those cutouts?
I'm curious because I REALLY like the fiber optic sights and with the lower price point, I'm now looking at the DY9 as a possible purchase.

[Capybara]

Thanks Capy -> question about the DY9:
I was looking at their website and up high on the backstrap, there appears to be a rivet or some type of fastener that also has some semicircular cut-outs around it - right where the web of the shooting hand goes. Have you handled the DY9 and can you feel those cutouts?
I'm curious because I REALLY like the fiber optic sights and with the lower price point, I'm now looking at the DY9 as a possible purchase.

Those are cutouts for a roll pin. Because they are relief cut, I cannot feel them on either side of the grip with my hand. It's well designed, I cannot even feel them at all gripping high up and tightly.

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[TheFlashG]

Those are cutouts for a roll pin. Because they are relief cut, I cannot feel them on either side of the grip with my hand. It's well designed, I cannot even feel them at all gripping high up and tightly.

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Awesome - thanks Capy!
I'll need to check out the DY9 at a LGS to see how it feels...

[Capybara]

Awesome - thanks Capy!
I'll need to check out the DY9 at a LGS to see how it feels...

It's quite an impressive package for less than $300. Some mildly annoying things about it though like the lack of holster choices and lack of sights. As of now, you'd better like those DY9 sights because they are proprietary and you won't be putting any third party sights on in their place. The sight mounting system is totally different than Glock or anything else so keep that in mind as you look at the Derya. I have a feeling the market will respond as they are selling a lot of them so it will become a viable market for someone like XS, Hogue and TruGlo but the pistol is fairly new so not a lot of holsters and third party sights yet. I changing out the green rear fiber tubes for black and the front red one for white, we can at least change out the fiber tubes.