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  • #16
    NorCal Einstein
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1242

    Originally posted by jonzer77

    I do like the checkering on this gunsite model 1911
    That would be serrations on the front strap

    Originally posted by INFAMOUS762X39
    I am with you 100%.

    I am in the market for a 1911 that does not have front strap checkering, currently looking at a CA Legal Les Baer Concept II. I just wish their was a picture of the Main Spring Serrated Housing.
    Taken from 1911Forum from nixorz. This is a Custom Carry with standard serrated MSH.



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    • #17
      Black Majik
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 9695

      give grip tape a try, you can hide it underneath your grips, for the most part it'll look pretty clean. It'll give you an idea of the added traction provided similar to checkering.

      For myself I need some sort of frontstrap traction, without it, especially on a 1911 is too slick.

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      • #18
        mif_slim
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2008
        • 10089

        Their there because after shooting the mighty 45, your hands will bleed and cause the gun to flip out of your hands. The checker is to assure you have maximum grip even when the grip is covered in blood.
        Originally posted by Gottmituns
        It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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        • #19
          Write Winger
          Banned
          • Oct 2009
          • 6136

          And that's where I was at. Guess I just have to man up.

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          • #20
            redcliff
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2008
            • 5676

            I greatly prefer checkerring on the front straps of my 1911's versus just about any other treatment (Like Cyc Wid It I really dislike rubber finger grooves on 1911's).

            30 LPI has the nicest look, 20 LPI is the most agressive, 25 LPI is a nice compromise. The 20 LPI on my SA Pro feels great to my hands but I've been gripping and shooting 1911's for 38 years now.
            "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
            "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
            "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

            "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
            although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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            • #21
              Paradiddle
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2003
              • 1743

              Have Jim Hoag do it. He does somewhere around 25 LPI and then he knocks down the points. It is very comfortable.

              Will O'Hara will also knock down the points as well.

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              • #22
                Press Check
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 4879

                I had my Springield checkered at 20LPI, and it feels awesome. At 30LPI, you're almost better off with a set of grips with an aggressive profile.

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                • #23
                  richrmi
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 89

                  Because I was a 1911 noobie at the time, I went with Jim Hoag's recommended, hand-checkered, 20 LPI on my Springfield Loaded stainless. I'm glad I went along with his expert advice. That was almost 4 years ago and I couldn't be more pleased with the result. Hoag's checkering is worlds better than grip tape and never gets uncomfortable even after a 300 round practice session. It doesn't need to be replaced and IMO improves the look as well. Yes, he knocks the points down and that seems to make all the difference. Jim's hand checkering is so good on my Springfield it looks like art work.

                  Expect to pay north of $200 or more for hand-filed front strap checkering. Even more if your 1911 is blued and needs refinishing afterwards.

                  For me, the 30 LPI checkering is too smooth and doesn't afford the same high level of grip. The higher the number the more shallow is the checkering.

                  Rich

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                  • #24
                    9mmepiphany
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 8075

                    There are a lot of good alternatives to checkering available on the market. I personally dislike checkering because of how easy it is to damage.

                    The easy route is skate board tape. It is both effective and cheap to apply...there are many different grits and colors to choose from.

                    My favorite alternatives are Conamyds, golfball texture, chainlink texture and even simple vertical serrations (I like them in decreasing lengths as they move away from the center of the frontstrap)
                    ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                    • #25
                      SnWnMe
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 6897

                      You get used to it. 20 lpi has one pro and one con for me for presentation and engaging practice.

                      If I grip the gun right I have great control throughout the string of fire. If I grip the gun with a less than ideal grip it's hard to adjust my hold due to the effectiveness of the checkering.
                      Frank Da Tank

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                      • #26
                        The1stWright
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 608

                        I've been toying with the idea of adding front strap checkering to my SA Loaded. Should I do front strap serrations or 20 LPI checkering? This 1911 will be my range/HD gun no CCW. Sorry to ask a question in your thread OP just need some friendly gun advice!
                        Springfield Armory 1911-A1 Loaded
                        Custom Build AR-15

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                        • #27
                          Freq18Hz
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1243

                          Originally posted by skyscraper
                          20 LPI is for man's hands FYI....not for computer typers. Act accordingly.
                          Actually, the 20 LPI on the TRP is for gloved hands.


                          -Freq

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                          • #28
                            Press Check
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 4879

                            In my opinion, there's not much aesthetic difference between hand and machine checkering, but it also depends on who is doing the checkering. However, hand checkering should be slightly sharper than machine checkering, and with that said, I would probably reserve hand checkering for anything above 20LPI.

                            In either case, you want to make sure that whomever does the checkering trues the radius of the front strap. Otherwise, the checkering will obviously be uneven, and probably appear to be wavey.

                            With hand checkering, some Smith's will start out by machine, and finish by hand. One of the benefits in hand checkering is the ability to checker further up the strap compared to machine.

                            As always, with hand checkering, you may have small anomolies or slight imperfections. With machine checkering, assuming the machine operator knows what he or she is doing, your checkering is going to be perfectly uniform.

                            Machine checkering is nothing to balk at, and is quite complicated and time consuming.

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                            • #29
                              Press Check
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 4879

                              Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                              I personally dislike checkering because of how easy it is to damage.


                              Unless you're wearing rings on your primary hand, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to damage the checkering.

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                              • #30
                                SnWnMe
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 6897

                                And even if you're wearing rings, most precious metals are softer than steel.
                                Frank Da Tank

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