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  • Mossy Man
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 7641

    Did I do the right thing? Mods/members please input

    Moderators/Members, please chime in.

    I started off a trade in the private sales forum here last week (some of you may have seen it), and a member wanted to buy my SR40C.

    He lived about 90+ miles away (i stated FTF sacramento area only) and wanted to give me my asking price for it....we haggled a while (he complained driving twice out to PPT to me would ruin the deal for him) and i mentioned that I would ask for more if he wanted me to drive it out to him.

    Eventually he said he had plenty of guns and only wanted the SR40C to keep his full size SR40 company.

    So we haggled it a bit and I said I could meet him halfway and eat my fuel/time costs and sell for my asking price.

    I was cool with that, so we exchanged numbers and I gave him a call. He said he couldn't personally meet me for the sale because his foot was hurt, so he was going to send his friend for me to PPT to, and his friend could PPT back to him later.

    At this point I'm kind of going "wtf?" because I know FFL's can't do this sort of thing. So I tell him I'll call him back and instead I just PM him telling him no, I don't feel comfortable with the sale and I changed my mind.

    He then PM's me back later accusing me more or less of auctioning the weapon, and says that "he's just the broker who found the sale and forwarded it to the buyer"

    so now the story's changed from wanting it to accompany his full size SR40, haggling over price, to having a broken foot and sending his friend for me to PPT to so he can PPT to the buyer (so why did he haggle so much over the gas money if willing to pay for PPT twice?), to simply being a broker finding a sale for another buyer.

    I didn't sell the gun to him (or his friend) and decided I had given up selling the gun completely. So I took it off list and here I am.

    Was I wrong here, and did I do the right thing?

    The last thing I want is a gun owned by me being used in a crime....
    Last edited by Mossy Man; 05-17-2012, 5:35 PM.
  • #2
    BakerStBobby
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 86

    I don't believe you are wrong because you are following your instincts. Better safe than sorry. If I were in your situation, and the guy did and said the things you say he did and said...I would have walked away from the transaction as well.
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    • #3
      tradecraft
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 4603

      I would have done the same. There are plenty of other uncomplicated buyers out there.
      Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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      • #4
        clay32
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 1110

        It may not have the exact symptoms of a straw purchase, but it sure sounds fishy, I would have done the exact same thing.

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        • #5
          verb1
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 33

          Sounds like typical conning to me. I would've canceled the sale, too.

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          • #6
            vintagearms
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2009
            • 6841

            Your not in the wrong. I would have done the same thing.

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            • #7
              kb58
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 614

              Yeah anytime the word "friend" pops up in a sales as I get real suspicious.

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              • #8
                notme92069
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 856

                Definitely not worth the trouble. There is always another buyer somewhere.
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                • #9
                  keenkeen
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2011
                  • 6782

                  Once the buyer starts to give "stories" it gets to complicated for me...

                  Cut them loose and find a buyer without the baggage.

                  With all the types on this site I am sure they will think you are "auctioning"...who cares, you don't need their business anyway.
                  "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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                  • #10
                    Dark Sky Solutions
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 1214

                    So I fully agree with your decision. It I your gun and if your instincts said something is fishy then go with it.

                    I do have a question though. If his"friend" was doing the ppt he would get a background check right? It would be a totally legal transaction on your end. Did u make the decision on your morals? If so no worries. What I understand of the situation is u would have been legally in the right.
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                    • #11
                      RazzB7
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 3419

                      I think you did the right thing. If it didn't feel right, it didn't feel right. You don't need any more justification than that, IMHO.
                      Originally posted by Conan the Barbarian
                      Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing
                      Originally posted by MrsRazz
                      I don't wish to be known as a set of tits behind a gun.

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                      • #12
                        Mossy Man
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 7641

                        It was not a new member but he was not well established either

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                        • #13
                          gl0ckc0ma
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1302

                          Wait I dont get it.

                          Who cares who buys it, even if he sent his neighbor. The person your DROSing to is the person your DROSing to, as long as I get my asking price, I could care 2 ****s to who it is. IMHO it is up to the state (DOJ) to figure if he is not worthy or unable to qualify for a firearm, not mine.

                          I have buddys that will sometimes tell me what firearms they are interested in when were shooting the **** about guns, and if I see a good deal on here, I will let them know and even PM or make a phone call to hook them up. I see win/win. seller gets a buyer and my buddy gets the firearm he wants.

                          This just doesnt make any sense to me.

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                          • #14
                            tileguy
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1419

                            what a bunch of sissies. a person wanted to buy your firearm great you had it for sale didnt you. if the person purchasing it is legal to purchase it great, the deal goes through and if that guys wants to sell after he buys it from you who gives a darn. its his to sell.

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                            • #15
                              Mossy Man
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 7641

                              Originally posted by DocCrazyJ
                              So I fully agree with your decision. It I your gun and if your instincts said something is fishy then go with it.

                              I do have a question though. If his"friend" was doing the ppt he would get a background check right? It would be a totally legal transaction on your end. Did u make the decision on your morals? If so no worries. What I understand of the situation is u would have been legally in the right.
                              I know the straw sales laws don't distinguish if the 2nd buyer is eligible or not. Its still illegal.

                              But thats for ffl not ppt.....my moral standing is that either way its the same concept and i dont want to contribute to any possible crime if i can avoid it.

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