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  • r8dr rider
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1983

    1911 issues....help

    My SA Loaded 1911 won't go full battery sometimes when shooting. It usually happens on the last shot. It not the mags cuz it happens on all the mags (SA and Chip Mc). I've also tried different ammo too. If I change out the recoiled spring to a 17lb will this help it? Any input is appreciated.
  • #2
    DVSmith
    Cantankerous old coot
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Dec 2007
    • 3702

    give is some history of the gun.

    Is it new? have you made sure it is properly cleaned and oiled? when you say "full battery" I picture the slide slightly short of closed but the round in the chamber and the base under the extractor, or do you mean something else? How far out of battery is it?

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    • #3
      joefreas
      • Jan 2010
      • 2421

      How many rounds are on the current recoil spring and extractor? When was the last time you removed and cleaned the extractor?
      If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

      Originally posted by XDRoX
      Walking around with a banana in a holster won't do anything but get you laughed at.
      "A true patriot would repeal the patriot act"
      Ron Paul

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      • #4
        r8dr rider
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 1983

        Guns about 4 years old. Less then 1k rounds. Like all my guns I keep it very cleaned and lubed. How you picture it is exactly what happens. The slide doesn't go all the way forward. When i manually cycle the slide the round comes out. The odd thing is it doesn't happen all the time and its only started happening recently. I figure a new spring might give it enough power to push it into full battery.

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        • #5
          joefreas
          • Jan 2010
          • 2421

          Do you remove the extractor and clean out the extractor hole? You could try a new Wolf spring. Dawson Precision sells them as a kit that comes with a new firing pin spring for about $20.
          If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

          Originally posted by XDRoX
          Walking around with a banana in a holster won't do anything but get you laughed at.
          "A true patriot would repeal the patriot act"
          Ron Paul

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          • #6
            AeroEngi
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 2887

            Originally posted by weber_2
            Guns about 4 years old. Less then 1k rounds. Like all my guns I keep it very cleaned and lubed. How you picture it is exactly what happens. The slide doesn't go all the way forward. When i manually cycle the slide the round comes out. The odd thing is it doesn't happen all the time and its only started happening recently. I figure a new spring might give it enough power to push it into full battery.
            I think it could be a combination of 3 things: First, there could be a possibility that you might be limp-wristing. I know my friend has caused my SA TRP to fail to return to battery by limp-wristing. It never does that when I shoot it. Second, your recoil spring may be worn out/wearing out. Don't up the weight on the recoil spring, if you want to replace it, just get a new, standard 16 lb spring. Third, your extractor may not be properly tensioned. Either it has too much tension on it or your extractor may be clocking.

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            • #7
              joefreas
              • Jan 2010
              • 2421

              It sounds like the spring is weak or the extractor isnt moving to clip the round.
              If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

              Originally posted by XDRoX
              Walking around with a banana in a holster won't do anything but get you laughed at.
              "A true patriot would repeal the patriot act"
              Ron Paul

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              • #8
                r8dr rider
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 1983

                ^good info Thx. But if I cycle the slide and the live round ejects that means the extractor clipped the round correct?

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                • #9
                  joefreas
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 2421

                  Originally posted by weber_2
                  ^good info Thx. But if I cycle the slide and the live round ejects that means the extractor clipped the round correct?
                  Yes and no. The extractor can still be clipping the round but if it is binding it will push the round to the side preventing the gun from going into battery. This usually happens when something is stuck in the extractor hole preventing it from flexing over its full travel. Also a waekened slide spring may not have enough force to depress the extractor.
                  If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

                  Originally posted by XDRoX
                  Walking around with a banana in a holster won't do anything but get you laughed at.
                  "A true patriot would repeal the patriot act"
                  Ron Paul

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                  • #10
                    KandyRedCoi
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 1748

                    send it in, i heard they have awesome customer service
                    -Coi- N R A member since 2008
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                    • #11
                      Press Check
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 4879

                      Since the last round has the least amount of compression from the magazine spring pushing it up, the failure to return to battery (FTRTB) is probably occuring from the extractor tension being too tight. In short, there's not enough magazine tension to seat the rim of the case under the extractor.

                      That could be one of a few different issues that create this problem.

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                      • #12
                        hornswaggled
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1650

                        What ammo at you shooting? 230gr?
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                        • #13
                          Press Check
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 4879

                          Originally posted by KandyRedCoi
                          send it in, i heard they have awesome customer service
                          They do!

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                          • #14
                            ojisan
                            Agent 86
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 11782

                            Too bad the OP is so far away.
                            It's not likely that a 1911-knowledgable CalGunner is in his area to give it a quick fix.

                            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                            I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                            • #15
                              r8dr rider
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1983

                              ^lol

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