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June 6 - I first discovered this major issue with the gun in early June while cleaning The rampage after a day of shooting, around 250 rounds and the night before taking my family on a trip to Socal. I discovered that the slide was cracked all the way through and that the slide was splitting at the guide rail channel due to the metal being too thin in that location from a design flaw of the knurled panel that was added to make the slide different than SLR's(first video shows the flaw and subsequent damage). So, I contacted Mike and he was super cool about it and got a new slide out to me. I was super cool about it because I understand that **** happens.
June 28 -The new replacement slide shows up and while transferring over the guts and front sight i discover the same design flaw in this slide. The Knurled panel on the right side of the slide had the same issue but was intact like a dotted line. I contact Mike again and let him know the bad news. Mike checks his stock and discovers all 30 of the slides he has are flawed in the same way(text messages prove this). We then discuss how to make the situation right. I reach out to my buddy who picked up his Rampage the same day as me and ask him to inspect his slide. Same issue, the slide is separating at the base of the right knurled panel. 3 for 3 on unproperly milled slides.
July 4 -Mike offers to get me an another ported SLR slide without any of the Rampage work done to it and I was more than ok with that. Mike contacts SLR and they no longer offer the ported slide. Mike says he can get me an unported slide that would be compatible with an afterburner(I assumed by this we would be getting a new barrel setup as what we paid for was a ported slide and barrel.) This presents a new issue as now the ported barrel would not be compatible with the unported slide. so I tell Mike that we would be needing unported barrels as the ported barrel and unported slide wont work together because it seemed like he was unaware of this. Mike then does not reply.
July 9- I reach out to Mike to get an ETA on the replacement parts. Mike says parts are on the way and that barrels would be included. I assumed we would be getting afterburner setups for reasons as previously stated.
July 17 - Mike reaches out to let me know that the slides are in and he is waiting on the barrels. I ask if they are the afterburner setups and he replies "Didn't say I was getting afterburner barrels." So, me fuming but still trying to be cool, I say i asked out of curiosity because he had mentioned them. After some time, I reach back out to Mike to let him know that us not getting afterburners or any kind or compensator doesn't sit right with me as we paid $2400 for these guns and we are now getting back less than what we paid for. Mike then replies that this is getting out of hand and that he worked with me on my request (Working with a request and making the deal whole because we were sold firearms with engineering flaws are two different things.) He then proceeds to say that I threw in that a new barrel was needed for this setup (in fact it is as you cannot run a ported barrel with an unported slide unless you want some serious and dangerous issues.) Like my complaints were unwarranted he replies with "please i rather take a bad review at this point brother and have to say no." He complains about the burner being as expensive as the slide and if SLR would have made the ported option still, we would have got them. I then take some time to reply to Mike and just ask to mail the slide and barrel.
Mike did message me the next day and offered to make it right by giving me an on roster gun at cost with no tax, but after this experience I would rather buy a gun at markup and with tax to not have to do business with him again. After how I was treated, I was more than Okay with leaving the bad review he requested.
I would have been more than okay with a ported Zaffiri slide or anything to make the ported barrel work. Even if they had to be machined I was willing to wait.
This is poor business practice, I had heard a lot of rumors from customers who have bought from him and even saw things in the r/caguns subreddit about him and swept them under the rug. Now unfortunately i see they were true.
When selling something with your name on it, you should back it up. unfortunately, in this situation me and my friend ended up not getting what we paid for and now I have an unported two-tone gun that is black and FDE when i paid for a ported barrel and cerakoted FDE gun.
Another issue: How many of these guns are out in circulation right now with the same damage that folks are relying on as a truck gun, SHTF gun, or a Concealed carry piece? This is kind of a big safety deal especially when you are labelling the gun as a "gunfighting" gun. Has he voluntarily reached out to any of the folks to let them know of the design flaw and has he offered to replace the slide and barrels?
The first video Link is showing the damage to my first slide and the engineer flaw in the second slide.
The second video is the message chain.
I am a bluecollar guy with 2 toddlers and a wife at home and im currently in gunsmith school. So, i have very little time to get pictures loaded and then linked on top of the workload i already have. So, I figured the videos would be a much easier alternative for folks to see the damage and follow the message chain.
https://youtu.be/cUyvbsBhl6Q?si=9DOaj6pJlFywMsqo - SLide damage
https://youtu.be/o2ZiAtd3sok?si=zWOKS-Z0kjK8goRS - Message chain
FDE Cracked and delaminated slide
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Friends damaged slide - approx 200-300 rounds total fired is my estimation based on outings we have gone on together. 1 CCW class and sub 100 round USPSA event. Definitely under 500 rounds fired.
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UNFIRED replacement.
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Calipered measurements: first was replacement slide sent and second is the slide that actually broke and delaminated.
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June 28 -The new replacement slide shows up and while transferring over the guts and front sight i discover the same design flaw in this slide. The Knurled panel on the right side of the slide had the same issue but was intact like a dotted line. I contact Mike again and let him know the bad news. Mike checks his stock and discovers all 30 of the slides he has are flawed in the same way(text messages prove this). We then discuss how to make the situation right. I reach out to my buddy who picked up his Rampage the same day as me and ask him to inspect his slide. Same issue, the slide is separating at the base of the right knurled panel. 3 for 3 on unproperly milled slides.
July 4 -Mike offers to get me an another ported SLR slide without any of the Rampage work done to it and I was more than ok with that. Mike contacts SLR and they no longer offer the ported slide. Mike says he can get me an unported slide that would be compatible with an afterburner(I assumed by this we would be getting a new barrel setup as what we paid for was a ported slide and barrel.) This presents a new issue as now the ported barrel would not be compatible with the unported slide. so I tell Mike that we would be needing unported barrels as the ported barrel and unported slide wont work together because it seemed like he was unaware of this. Mike then does not reply.
July 9- I reach out to Mike to get an ETA on the replacement parts. Mike says parts are on the way and that barrels would be included. I assumed we would be getting afterburner setups for reasons as previously stated.
July 17 - Mike reaches out to let me know that the slides are in and he is waiting on the barrels. I ask if they are the afterburner setups and he replies "Didn't say I was getting afterburner barrels." So, me fuming but still trying to be cool, I say i asked out of curiosity because he had mentioned them. After some time, I reach back out to Mike to let him know that us not getting afterburners or any kind or compensator doesn't sit right with me as we paid $2400 for these guns and we are now getting back less than what we paid for. Mike then replies that this is getting out of hand and that he worked with me on my request (Working with a request and making the deal whole because we were sold firearms with engineering flaws are two different things.) He then proceeds to say that I threw in that a new barrel was needed for this setup (in fact it is as you cannot run a ported barrel with an unported slide unless you want some serious and dangerous issues.) Like my complaints were unwarranted he replies with "please i rather take a bad review at this point brother and have to say no." He complains about the burner being as expensive as the slide and if SLR would have made the ported option still, we would have got them. I then take some time to reply to Mike and just ask to mail the slide and barrel.
Mike did message me the next day and offered to make it right by giving me an on roster gun at cost with no tax, but after this experience I would rather buy a gun at markup and with tax to not have to do business with him again. After how I was treated, I was more than Okay with leaving the bad review he requested.
I would have been more than okay with a ported Zaffiri slide or anything to make the ported barrel work. Even if they had to be machined I was willing to wait.
This is poor business practice, I had heard a lot of rumors from customers who have bought from him and even saw things in the r/caguns subreddit about him and swept them under the rug. Now unfortunately i see they were true.
When selling something with your name on it, you should back it up. unfortunately, in this situation me and my friend ended up not getting what we paid for and now I have an unported two-tone gun that is black and FDE when i paid for a ported barrel and cerakoted FDE gun.
Another issue: How many of these guns are out in circulation right now with the same damage that folks are relying on as a truck gun, SHTF gun, or a Concealed carry piece? This is kind of a big safety deal especially when you are labelling the gun as a "gunfighting" gun. Has he voluntarily reached out to any of the folks to let them know of the design flaw and has he offered to replace the slide and barrels?
The first video Link is showing the damage to my first slide and the engineer flaw in the second slide.
The second video is the message chain.
I am a bluecollar guy with 2 toddlers and a wife at home and im currently in gunsmith school. So, i have very little time to get pictures loaded and then linked on top of the workload i already have. So, I figured the videos would be a much easier alternative for folks to see the damage and follow the message chain.
https://youtu.be/cUyvbsBhl6Q?si=9DOaj6pJlFywMsqo - SLide damage
https://youtu.be/o2ZiAtd3sok?si=zWOKS-Z0kjK8goRS - Message chain
FDE Cracked and delaminated slide
IMG_8217.jpg
Friends damaged slide - approx 200-300 rounds total fired is my estimation based on outings we have gone on together. 1 CCW class and sub 100 round USPSA event. Definitely under 500 rounds fired.
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UNFIRED replacement.
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Calipered measurements: first was replacement slide sent and second is the slide that actually broke and delaminated.
IMG_8219.jpg IMG_8221.png
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