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  • J.D.Allen
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 2340

    So I went to the range last night...

    I've always considered myself to be a "combat accurate" shooter. Not uber accurate by any means but certainly able to get good center mass hits most of the time.

    Recently a buddy of mine turned me on to shooting some competitions (informal ones, kind of a cross between IPSC and USPSA) and I figured it would be good to get used to shooting on the move and engaging multiple targets etc. Lets just say I was less than impressed with my results.

    My buddy is an amazing shooter, so I invited him to the range with me so he could give me some pointers. He told me to change to a thumbs forward grip, and to change the part of my finger that contacted the trigger. He also told me to make sure my trigger finger wasn't resting on the frame.

    The improvement was almost instant and I couldn't believe how much better of a shooter I was after making such subtle changes. My grip is now much more firm and stable, and I feel much more sure of my shots.

    I though it would be difficult to switch to a new grip after so many years of doing it the same way but it was really easy and I'm going to use it from now on.

    So practice practice practice guys (and gals) and don't be afraid to ask for a little help.
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    libertyordeath
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1533

    Yeah I have seen lots of people with the forward thumbs and next time out I'm going to give a shot and hope I get some good results.

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    • #3
      Moto4Fun
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 965

      Where have your thumbs been pointing?

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      • #4
        modls7
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 414

        Its amazing what can happen when you keep an open mind.

        Competition is an excellent way to gauge yourself and your gear against real people outside of the internet and indoor firing lanes.

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        • #5
          J.D.Allen
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 2340

          Originally posted by Moto4Fun
          Where have your thumbs been pointing?
          I had always crossed them. It's not a bad grip, but after trying it thumbs forward FOR ME, it works a lot better.

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          • #6
            J.D.Allen
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 2340

            Originally posted by libertyordeath
            Yeah I have seen lots of people with the forward thumbs and next time out I'm going to give a shot and hope I get some good results.
            I would recommend having someone who uses it show you the details of it. You have to do it right

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            • #7
              nocomply25
              Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 273

              Ya I made the same change to a thumbs forward grip making sure my left palm covered the empty space on the grips...and man it made a huge difference.

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              • #8
                J.D.Allen
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 2340

                Originally posted by nocomply25
                Ya I made the same change to a thumbs forward grip making sure my left palm covered the empty space on the grips...and man it made a huge difference.
                Exactly. So that the palms cover both grips entirely. It's a great grip.

                He also let me shoot a Glock of his that he reworked the trigger on and installed a lighter recoil spring. I am not a Glock fan but that thing was amazing. Shows what a little work can do.

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                • #9
                  shayski
                  Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 199

                  i agree that those little tips are huge helps. i shoot uspsa and my first time was very bad i changed my my grip and improved a ton. it was night and day. my father in law is a retired cop and he has been giving me draw pointers then next time out i was shaving 5 seconds off my stage time.
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                  • #10
                    1911Luvr
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1824

                    Originally posted by nocomply25
                    Ya I made the same change to a thumbs forward grip making sure my left palm covered the empty space on the grips...and man it made a huge difference.
                    If you watch top semi-auto competitive shooters you will notice they all use the thumbs forward grip. For me, it improves natural aim and control. I highly recommend it to anyone I shoot with.
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                    • #11
                      Lead Waster
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 16650

                      I always feel obligated to post this every once in a while. I keep re-watching it. Todd Jarret explaining his grip and some other tips. Though when explaining where he puts his finger on the trigger he messes up his words a bit.

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                      • #12
                        Nightron
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 69

                        Originally posted by J.D.Allen
                        title: "So I went to the range last night..."

                        He told me to change to a thumbs forward grip, and to change the part of my finger that contacted the trigger. He also told me to make sure my trigger finger wasn't resting on the frame.

                        The improvement was almost instant and I couldn't believe how much better of a shooter I was after making such subtle changes.
                        so why not just say it in the thread title I wonder???? Just sayin. Something like: "Buddy helped me change my grip technique, improve my shooting". Sounds a bit like golfing basics.

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                          • Jan 2012
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                          Originally posted by Nightron
                          so why not just say it in the thread title I wonder???? Just sayin. Something like: "Buddy helped me change my grip technique, improve my shooting". Sounds a bit like golfing basics.
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                          Originally posted by Lead Waster
                          I always feel obligated to post this every once in a while. I keep re-watching it. Todd Jarret explaining his grip and some other tips. Though when explaining where he puts his finger on the trigger he messes up his words a bit.

                          Great video post thanks. I've been playing with different grips and the video showed I clearly have my trigger finger to far into the trigger guard.
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                          • #14
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                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1349

                            Originally posted by Nightron
                            so why not just say it in the thread title I wonder???? Just sayin. Something like: "Buddy helped me change my grip technique, improve my shooting". Sounds a bit like golfing basics.
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                            • #15
                              Soul_Cal
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 664

                              Originally posted by J.D.Allen
                              He also told me to make sure my trigger finger wasn't resting on the frame.
                              I'll have to try that next time at the range.

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