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  • Buford
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 48

    Micro Stamping.

    I can't seem to find the answer I'm looking for. Come January 2010 you can't buy a pistol unless it has micro stamping. How will this affect currently owned pistols, PPTs and giving them to my children??
  • #2
    bigkahuna04
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 913

    I believe that the micro-stamping feature will only apply to the new sales of new pistols at that time. Anything that you have prior will be OK. Passing firearms that you've owned that does not have microstamping to your children should be OK .

    see this link: http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showt...=microstamping.......interesting read.
    Last edited by bigkahuna04; 01-03-2008, 10:48 AM.
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    • #3
      bwiese
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2005
      • 27621

      It will not affect what you own or can PPT.

      Also, because of the way the bill has been written, microstamping may not come into fruition at all even in 2010 or decades later, due to patent restrictions, regulatory implementation matters, etc.

      So don't lose much sleep over this. Don't panic and go out and buy a bunch of guns - relax, buy the guns you want when you want.

      Bill Wiese
      San Jose, CA

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57170

        Originally posted by bwiese
        So don't lose much sleep over this.
        Don't panic and go out and buy a bunch of guns - relax, buy the guns you want when you want.
        Quit that.
        There are gun dealers that NEED the buying frenzy.
        Randall Rausch

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        • #5
          hoffmang
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2006
          • 18448

          I do find it refreshing that our FFL's are nakedly self interested on this board

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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57170

            Originally posted by hoffmang
            I do find it refreshing that our FFL's are nakedly self interested on this board

            -Gene
            I need to get an FFL so I can be included in that bunch.
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            • #7
              hamster
              Member
              • Dec 2007
              • 457

              some just need an excuse to buy a gun.
              Nothing is as perfect as you can imagine it.
              Hamster's AR-15

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              • #8
                JTROKS
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2007
                • 13093

                Is the technology for the microstamping requirement available?
                The wise man said just find your place
                In the eye of the storm
                Seek the roses along the way
                Just beware of the thorns...
                K. Meine

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                • #9
                  hoffmang
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 18448

                  Yes, but not without patent encumbrances which are not allowed in the statute.

                  -Gene
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                  • #10
                    U2BassAce
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 1677

                    Microstamping will also only apply to NEW models of guns being introduced to the market place.

                    Current approved handguns will not be affected as they are grandfathered.

                    Just don't expect to ever see a new model of handgun introduced in California once the law takes effect.

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                    • #11
                      randy
                      In Memoriam
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 4642

                      I'll take micorstamping over a mag disconnect any day.

                      Is it a bad law yes is the mag disconnect and LCI worse I believe so.
                      I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

                      When I hit the lotto I'm only shooting factory.

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                      • #12
                        bwiese
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 27621

                        Originally posted by randy
                        I'll take micorstamping over a mag disconnect any day.

                        Is it a bad law yes is the mag disconnect and LCI worse I believe so.
                        Why? Poor analysis.

                        The mag discos and LCIs are easy to design in and don't depend on weird costly equipement, and all the major vendors have this stuff either in their guns or on the drawing boards since these are often requirements for departmental purchases anyway. And they're readily/cheaply removable.

                        Microstamping depends on expensive proprietary equipment and can lead to your accidental identification as a criminal if spent brass near a crime scene is found. Defeating microstamping requires a new barrel/firing pin and/or slide assembly.

                        Bill Wiese
                        San Jose, CA

                        CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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                        to be construed as formal or informal positions of the Calguns.Net
                        ownership, The Calguns Foundation, Inc. ("CGF"), the NRA, or my
                        employer. No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
                        legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                        • #13
                          Buford
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 48

                          Thanks for the replies.

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                          • #14
                            fun2none
                            Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 402

                            Microstamping Patent

                            Take a look at the micro-stamping patent:



                            It seems overly broad so that it would cover any form of imprinting. The irony is that the broader the patent, the more likely the technology is disqualified by the statute - unless the DOJ-BOF reinterprets the following phrase.

                            provided that the Department of Justice certifies that the technology used to create the imprint is available to more than one manufacturer unencumbered by any patent restrictions.
                            If you don't have a license from Identification Dynamics LLC to use imprint technology, you are not "unencumbered by any patent restrictions."

                            Any patent attorneys care to chime ?

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                            • #15
                              FortCourageArmory
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1001

                              Originally posted by hoffmang
                              I do find it refreshing that our FFL's are nakedly self interested on this board

                              -Gene
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