Educate me on .40 caliber round

[DrMoebius]

Not if you had the mags before the ban

Just this weekend, a few friends and I were wondering how the grandfathering of prior hi-cap mags works.

Are you allowed to own and shoot them?
Or, just own them like the current "kit" regulation for new mags?

So I asked myself why someone hadn't come up w/ a pistol that was the same size as the Colt Officers, but was ~ 1/3 lighter, had a full 4" barrel, and was ~ as controllable as a full-sized .45 ACP...

...and also shot a round w/ the ~ performance of the high sub-sonic 185 grain FAT round, and was high capacity...? Botta-bing-botta-boom...

Your post gave me a good chuckle while making its point.

[Red Devil]

My Buddy's pickin' up his first auto HG this wknd...a G19. (Asked the counter-jerk insteada me... )

Will recommend he feed it this stuff... it looks awesome.

Federal Tactical HST 9mm 147 gr Test with Denim

Federal HST 9mm 147 gr JHP SIM-TEST wDenim

[12voltguy]

My Buddy's pickin' up his first auto HG this wknd...a G19. (Asked the counter-jerk insteada me... )

Will recommend he feed it this stuff... it looks awesome.

Federal Tactical HST 9mm 147 gr Test with Denim

Federal HST 9mm 147 gr JHP SIM-TEST wDenim

jerk sold him a fine gun....what is the problem?
I own 2 g19s 1 g19c 1 std

[NorCalK9.com]

I want a g19 as well.

[Red Devil]

jerk sold him a fine gun....what is the problem?
I own 2 g19s 1 g19c 1 std

The problem is the "" didn't stick to the post.

It was a joke.

(the counter-jerk should have recommended a G23 instead. )

[12voltguy]

The problem is the "" didn't stick to the post.

It was a joke.

(the counter-jerk should have recommended a G23 instead. )

lol
so much cvrap in this thread I didn't catch that
I got a 22, 20 21 & the 2 19s
& at least 1 1911,lol

[Red Devil]

I'll tell ya...

After seein' this test:
Federal HST 9mm 147 gr JHP SIM-TEST w/Denim

When similarly compared to my beloved .40W&W/180HST:

.40 Federal HST 180 gr Ammo Gel Test


The G19 may be what I get for the wife and kids.

It's an impressive round. A little smaller cavity/canal/expansion, but not by much, and the same ~13 inch penetration.

A little easier and cheaper to shoot too.


Now, Why haven't they shoe-horned a 10-round .45 ACP into the SAME G19/G23 slide/frame...?

Asked... now answer. (please, I need one... bad.)

[TempleKnight]

That, and only that, is why I finally bought, well traded for, a .40 cal handgun.

Personal opinion is that .40S&W is an answer to a question no one asked.

Kes, I think the question was "how do I make major power factor in IPSC Limited class with something that recoils less than a .45?". The "fotay" pretty much owns Limited.

My competition guns are .38 SuperComp and .40 Major; my carry guns are .45and 9MM.

[trew10]

.40 is literally a larger bullet then the 9mm, but not necessarily better. if bigger is better then answer me this. the AK-47 uses 7.62 and the M4/M16 uses 5.56 , why does the U.S military go with a smaller round?

[trew10]

we go shooting a lot in the high desert, we shoot on a rocky hillside, when we set up our targets we find tons of .40 bullets on floor with little to no marks on them. i have yet to find a 9mm bullet that is complete on floor they are only small fragments. if the .40 is that much stronger then why is this???

[PandaLuv]

.40 is literally a larger bullet then the 9mm, but not necessarily better. if bigger is better then answer me this. the AK-47 uses 7.62 and the M4/M16 uses 5.56 , why does the U.S military go with a smaller round?

why is our military interested in .300 blackout?
Why did russians decided to go with 5.45 AK74?

With handguns, there really isnt that much difference when you use JHP. With rifles, it's a whole another story.

[BigDogatPlay]

Personal opinion is that .40S&W is an answer to a question no one asked.

This is true to a good degree, IMO. The backstory of how it came to be is well known, but it has found a large niche in LEA.

I got into .40 because most of the other agencies in the county I worked in at the time were using it, and my agency went with it as well. Once I started working with it, we used the 165 grain Ranger T load, I found it to be a very good compromise between 9mm and .45, both of which I had used. Heavier bullets than any 9, but not a total sacrifice in mag capacity like most .45s.

No pistol caliber is all things to all situations, but the .40 hits hard and will be very effective if the guy behind the trigger does his part correctly.

[trew10]

i have shot all 3. 9mm, .40, .45 i like all 3 but i am most accurate with 9mm. in a S.H.T.F situation you wont be dealing with a standing target, you will more then likely be dealing with an aggressive intruder. in this situation i dont think you or perp will really care what caliber your gun is.

[Doctor Suarez]

With any product designed to bridge a gap between two existing, popular options, you'll get some people who think it's the worst of both. In a marketing class I took, we looked at the examples of a popular crossover car vs. Pat Boone's "In a Metal Mood." Sometimes bridge products alienate both markets, and other times they appeal to them.

Other people are simply macho nuts who resent it for supplanting the 10mm.

I own a 9, a .40, and a .45, and I like them all. Here in CA, 40 often makes more sense than the 9mm. Since we're limited to 10 rounds, and .40 guns are built on the same frames as 9mm pistols, 9mm loses its selling point of increased capacity. That being said, it's still good for its low cost and recoil. When I wanted a subcompact autoloader, I tried the GLOCK 27 and hated it, even though I love my XD .40. So I went with the 26 instead.

Don't let people mess with you. I was into the XD before a lot of people (gun hipster that I am) and people at the range were all weird about it. Six months later it was everywhere. Shoot what you dig!