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  • Subotai
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2010
    • 11289

    What the heck Ruger! LC9

    You can't fire it if the mag comes out? So if you're wrasslin' with the bad guy and the mag button gets hit, you're out of luck, even with one in the chamber? Who thought this was a good idea?
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    CC Gunsmithing
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 649

    that can be remedied
    http://ccgunsmithing.webs.com/

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    • #3
      Clinton
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 890

      Magazine disconnect. Gotta love California!
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      - Gene Hoffman

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      • #4
        knerona
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 844

        It's not Rugers fault =(

        Just do the mod for it.
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        • #5
          223556
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3343

          But what if the perp gets a hold or tries to grab your pistol?
          Just pop your mag out and your pistol cant be used against you if they take it from you, unless your beat with it...thats another story.

          Always have a back up means of protecting your self (pepper spray, knife, kubaton, ect.)
          The magazine disconnect can serve a purpose for a carry/duty pistol.

          Thats pretty much all I see its use for, no amount of safety's will replace proper gun handling instruction. Follow the rules and no one gets hurt!
          "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

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          • #6
            Arkangel
            Veteran Member
            • May 2010
            • 4458

            That is a magazine disconnect.

            It is yet another mandatory gift from our beloved politicians. This plus a very specific kind of loaded chamber indicator that is needed before a pistol can be submitted for testing keep MANY handguns from the "approved list".
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            • #7
              IVC
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 17594

              If it was a great idea, police and military would use them. That's the best way to evaluate any new gizmo against hype and/or politicians.
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              • #8
                G60
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3989

                Originally posted by IVC
                If it was a great idea, police... would use them. That's the best way to evaluate any new gizmo against hype and/or politicians.
                some police do use them.
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                • #9
                  SunsetMan
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 9

                  I got my FN Five-seveN in Georgia. Took it out of the box at home, verified it was empty, pulled the trigger and WTF! I thought it was broken until it dawned on me it was a mag safety.

                  I suppose it could keep a dufus from shooting someone thinking the gun was empty just because they removed the mag.

                  Does anyone think there would be any legal implications in disabling the mag safety if you were involved in a shoot like the Zimmerman case?

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                  • #10
                    ZombieTactics
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 3691

                    Originally posted by IVC
                    If it was a great idea, police and military would use them. That's the best way to evaluate any new gizmo against hype and/or politicians.
                    Actually, several police departments DO ... the California Highway Patrol for instance. There are many instances where it has prevented an officer from being shot with his own weapon.
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                    • #11
                      Joe Register
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 1309

                      Ruger is just helping you out so you don't point the gun at yourself and pull the trigger without the mag thinking it is unloaded. Now, it you did, you still have the chance to read the big label on the barrell which then directs you to read the owners manual which says not to point gun at self and pull trigger, but just in case you can't read, you can still eyeball the loaded chamber indicator so that if you were otherwise tempted to point gun at self and pull trigger you would know it was a bad idea. If all that fails and you didn't lock your gun with the required lock (internal or add on) then the CA Assembly has a new bill in the works just for you. It will install a voice activated chip which disables the firing control system until it gets the required over-ride.

                      Pull trigger:

                      Gun (in voice of Kit or Hal or for $2.99 extra, Mr. T) "I have detected a trigger pull. Do you intend to fire the gun?"

                      You "uh, yeah"

                      Gun "Are you sure?"

                      You "Yes, fire!"

                      Gun "Did you read the warnings in the owners manual?"

                      You "Yes, he's got a knife, fire already!"

                      Gun "Are you in a lead free area?"

                      You "Huh? Lead what? Agh! I am bleeding. Fire Fire Fire!!!"

                      Gun "Are you in a sensitive area as not defined by Heller?"

                      You "Gahhh. Stabbing continues...getting weak..."

                      Gun "Please verify you are not withing 500 yards of a school zone"

                      You "goodbye world, it was a good run"

                      Gun "Are you the regsitered owner of this firearm?"

                      You "Yes...so cold...going dark..."

                      Gun "Is your address up to date"

                      You "gurgglle..."

                      Gun "I am sorry, I did not understand that last response. Is your address up to date?"

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                      • #12
                        NIB
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 549

                        Originally posted by IVC
                        If it was a great idea, police and military would use them. That's the best way to evaluate any new gizmo against hype and/or politicians.
                        You must be new to guns.

                        Magazine disconnects are nothing new, they've been around for a few decades already.

                        And yes, many police departments do require them. We just happen to be stuck with them because of our politicians.

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                        • #13
                          IVC
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 17594

                          Originally posted by NIB
                          Magazine disconnects are nothing new, they've been around for a few decades already.

                          And yes, many police departments do require them. We just happen to be stuck with them because of our politicians.
                          I wasn't implying that magazine disconnect was a new feature, just that the best way to evaluate it is to look at whether it is used in the field.

                          From the few comments above, though, I stand corrected on police not using the magazine disconnect. I was under the impression that they considered it a safety hazard, which is obviously not the case. My bad.

                          For those of you in the LE community, how do you see the magazine disconnect with respect to safety?
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                          • #14
                            Freq18Hz
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1243

                            Originally posted by Joe Register
                            Ruger is just helping you out so you don't point the gun at yourself and pull the trigger without the mag thinking it is unloaded. Now, it you did, you still have the chance to read the big label on the barrell which then directs you to read the owners manual which says not to point gun at self and pull trigger, but just in case you can't read, you can still eyeball the loaded chamber indicator so that if you were otherwise tempted to point gun at self and pull trigger you would know it was a bad idea. If all that fails and you didn't lock your gun with the required lock (internal or add on) then the CA Assembly has a new bill in the works just for you. It will install a voice activated chip which disables the firing control system until it gets the required over-ride.

                            Pull trigger:

                            Gun (in voice of Kit or Hal or for $2.99 extra, Mr. T) "I have detected a trigger pull. Do you intend to fire the gun?"

                            You "uh, yeah"

                            Gun "Are you sure?"

                            You "Yes, fire!"

                            Gun "Did you read the warnings in the owners manual?"

                            You "Yes, he's got a knife, fire already!"

                            Gun "Are you in a lead free area?"

                            You "Huh? Lead what? Agh! I am bleeding. Fire Fire Fire!!!"

                            Gun "Are you in a sensitive area as not defined by Heller?"

                            You "Gahhh. Stabbing continues...getting weak..."

                            Gun "Please verify you are not withing 500 yards of a school zone"

                            You "goodbye world, it was a good run"

                            Gun "Are you the regsitered owner of this firearm?"

                            You "Yes...so cold...going dark..."

                            Gun "Is your address up to date"

                            You "gurgglle..."

                            Gun "I am sorry, I did not understand that last response. Is your address up to date?"
                            lol ^ this is magic!

                            -Freq

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                            • #15
                              loose_electron
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 784

                              Most of the safety add on gizmos are political add on features for sure.

                              Good news, most smart manufacturers make sure that
                              there is an easy work around to make it no longer an issue.
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