What the heck Ruger! LC9

[Subotai]

You can't fire it if the mag comes out? So if you're wrasslin' with the bad guy and the mag button gets hit, you're out of luck, even with one in the chamber? Who thought this was a good idea?

[CC Gunsmithing]

that can be remedied

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qin3g_T9HvY

[Clinton]

Magazine disconnect. Gotta love California!

[knerona]

It's not Rugers fault =(

Just do the mod for it.

[223556]

But what if the perp gets a hold or tries to grab your pistol?
Just pop your mag out and your pistol cant be used against you if they take it from you, unless your beat with it...thats another story.

Always have a back up means of protecting your self (pepper spray, knife, kubaton, ect.)
The magazine disconnect can serve a purpose for a carry/duty pistol.

Thats pretty much all I see its use for, no amount of safety's will replace proper gun handling instruction. Follow the rules and no one gets hurt!

[Arkangel]

That is a magazine disconnect.

It is yet another mandatory gift from our beloved politicians. This plus a very specific kind of loaded chamber indicator that is needed before a pistol can be submitted for testing keep MANY handguns from the "approved list".

[IVC]

If it was a great idea, police and military would use them. That's the best way to evaluate any new gizmo against hype and/or politicians.

[G60]

If it was a great idea, police... would use them. That's the best way to evaluate any new gizmo against hype and/or politicians.

some police do use them.

[SunsetMan]

I got my FN Five-seveN in Georgia. Took it out of the box at home, verified it was empty, pulled the trigger and WTF! I thought it was broken until it dawned on me it was a mag safety.

I suppose it could keep a dufus from shooting someone thinking the gun was empty just because they removed the mag.

Does anyone think there would be any legal implications in disabling the mag safety if you were involved in a shoot like the Zimmerman case?

[ZombieTactics]

If it was a great idea, police and military would use them. That's the best way to evaluate any new gizmo against hype and/or politicians.

Actually, several police departments DO ... the California Highway Patrol for instance. There are many instances where it has prevented an officer from being shot with his own weapon.

[Joe Register]

Ruger is just helping you out so you don't point the gun at yourself and pull the trigger without the mag thinking it is unloaded. Now, it you did, you still have the chance to read the big label on the barrell which then directs you to read the owners manual which says not to point gun at self and pull trigger, but just in case you can't read, you can still eyeball the loaded chamber indicator so that if you were otherwise tempted to point gun at self and pull trigger you would know it was a bad idea. If all that fails and you didn't lock your gun with the required lock (internal or add on) then the CA Assembly has a new bill in the works just for you. It will install a voice activated chip which disables the firing control system until it gets the required over-ride.

Pull trigger:

Gun (in voice of Kit or Hal or for $2.99 extra, Mr. T) "I have detected a trigger pull. Do you intend to fire the gun?"

You "uh, yeah"

Gun "Are you sure?"

You "Yes, fire!"

Gun "Did you read the warnings in the owners manual?"

You "Yes, he's got a knife, fire already!"

Gun "Are you in a lead free area?"

You "Huh? Lead what? Agh! I am bleeding. Fire Fire Fire!!!"

Gun "Are you in a sensitive area as not defined by Heller?"

You "Gahhh. Stabbing continues...getting weak..."

Gun "Please verify you are not withing 500 yards of a school zone"

You "goodbye world, it was a good run"

Gun "Are you the regsitered owner of this firearm?"

You "Yes...so cold...going dark..."

Gun "Is your address up to date"

You "gurgglle..."

Gun "I am sorry, I did not understand that last response. Is your address up to date?"

[NIB]

If it was a great idea, police and military would use them. That's the best way to evaluate any new gizmo against hype and/or politicians.

You must be new to guns.

Magazine disconnects are nothing new, they've been around for a few decades already.

And yes, many police departments do require them. We just happen to be stuck with them because of our politicians.

[IVC]

Magazine disconnects are nothing new, they've been around for a few decades already.

And yes, many police departments do require them. We just happen to be stuck with them because of our politicians.

I wasn't implying that magazine disconnect was a new feature, just that the best way to evaluate it is to look at whether it is used in the field.

From the few comments above, though, I stand corrected on police not using the magazine disconnect. I was under the impression that they considered it a safety hazard, which is obviously not the case. My bad.

For those of you in the LE community, how do you see the magazine disconnect with respect to safety?

[Freq18Hz]

Ruger is just helping you out so you don't point the gun at yourself and pull the trigger without the mag thinking it is unloaded. Now, it you did, you still have the chance to read the big label on the barrell which then directs you to read the owners manual which says not to point gun at self and pull trigger, but just in case you can't read, you can still eyeball the loaded chamber indicator so that if you were otherwise tempted to point gun at self and pull trigger you would know it was a bad idea. If all that fails and you didn't lock your gun with the required lock (internal or add on) then the CA Assembly has a new bill in the works just for you. It will install a voice activated chip which disables the firing control system until it gets the required over-ride.

Pull trigger:

Gun (in voice of Kit or Hal or for $2.99 extra, Mr. T) "I have detected a trigger pull. Do you intend to fire the gun?"

You "uh, yeah"

Gun "Are you sure?"

You "Yes, fire!"

Gun "Did you read the warnings in the owners manual?"

You "Yes, he's got a knife, fire already!"

Gun "Are you in a lead free area?"

You "Huh? Lead what? Agh! I am bleeding. Fire Fire Fire!!!"

Gun "Are you in a sensitive area as not defined by Heller?"

You "Gahhh. Stabbing continues...getting weak..."

Gun "Please verify you are not withing 500 yards of a school zone"

You "goodbye world, it was a good run"

Gun "Are you the regsitered owner of this firearm?"

You "Yes...so cold...going dark..."

Gun "Is your address up to date"

You "gurgglle..."

Gun "I am sorry, I did not understand that last response. Is your address up to date?"

lol ^ this is magic!

-Freq

[loose_electron]

Most of the safety add on gizmos are political add on features for sure.

Good news, most smart manufacturers make sure that
there is an easy work around to make it no longer an issue.