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  • L4D
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3053

    Transporting AR-Pistol

    Is it legal to transport an AR pistol disassembled in an unlocked container?
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    FeuerFrei
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2008
    • 7455

    all CA handgun transport rules apply. HERE

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    • #3
      bohoki
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 20825

      how about if you put a rifle upper on it

      kind of an expensive alternative to a gun rug with a locking zipper but ah what ya gonna do

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      • #4
        Untamed1972
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Mar 2009
        • 17579

        Originally posted by bohoki
        how about if you put a rifle upper on it

        kind of an expensive alternative to a gun rug with a locking zipper but ah what ya gonna do
        If the barrel is over 16" you would be in illegal posession of an unregistered AOW per federal NFA rules.
        "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

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        "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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          Untamed1972
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2009
          • 17579

          Originally posted by L4D
          Is it legal to transport an AR pistol disassembled in an unlocked container?
          If it's registered in CA as pistol/handgun then the lower is still considered a handgun, even w/o the upper attached.
          "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

          Quote for the day:
          "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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            bohoki
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 20825

            Originally posted by Untamed1972
            If the barrel is over 16" you would be in illegal posession of an unregistered AOW per federal NFA rules.
            are you a kook?

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            • #7
              Baconator
              Bacon makes it better
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2009
              • 9547

              Originally posted by Untamed1972
              If the barrel is over 16" you would be in illegal posession of an unregistered AOW per federal NFA rules.
              Me thinks it needs a butt stock to be a nfa issue.

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              • #8
                Untamed1972
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2009
                • 17579

                Originally posted by bohoki
                are you a kook?
                Uhhh....no. Look it up. A pistol (or buttstockless firearm) with a barrel over 16" is considered an AOW.

                I know it sounds wierd and stupid and makes no sense......cuz that's how it sounds to me too.....but that's gun laws for you.

                Check out the VERY FIRST LINE on the handgun flow chart http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf

                Oh...what's that? Barrel over 16" isn't a handgun! Hmmmm.......not so kooky now am I?
                Last edited by Untamed1972; 04-17-2012, 10:35 AM.
                "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                Quote for the day:
                "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                  Untamed1972
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 17579

                  Originally posted by Baconator
                  Me thinks it needs a butt stock to be a nfa issue.

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                  Then you thinks wrong.
                  "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                  Quote for the day:
                  "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                  • #10
                    bohoki
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 20825

                    Originally posted by Untamed1972
                    Uhhh....no. Look it up. A pistol (or buttstockless firearm) with a barrel over 16" is considered an AOW.

                    I know it sounds wierd and stupid and makes no sense......cuz that's how it sounds to me too.....but that's gun laws for you.

                    Check out the VERY FIRST LINE on the handgun flow chart http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf

                    Oh...what's that? Barrel over 16" isn't a handgun! Hmmmm.......not so kooky now am I?


                    yes you are a kook and i am surprised since you have 7000 posts

                    i think you are confusing the NFA "any other weapon" with a "title one other firearm" which includes stripped lowers and buttstockless shotguns

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                    • #11
                      Untamed1972
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 17579

                      Originally posted by bohoki
                      yes you are a kook and i am surprised since you have 7000 posts

                      i think you are confusing the NFA "any other weapon" with a "title one other firearm" which includes stripped lowers and buttstockless shotguns
                      Opps...you're right....AOW refers to smoothbore firearms under 26". That doesnt change the fact that a 16" barrel on a handgun changes its status.

                      But if it's registered as a pistol, it can't have a barrel over 16. So if it's not a rifle cuz it has no buttstock and its not a pistol cuz the barrel is to long...then what is it? And which rules apply?
                      "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                      Quote for the day:
                      "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                      • #12
                        ChaneRZ
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2041

                        Just put it in the trunk. It is consider as a locked container.

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                        • #13
                          Untamed1972
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 17579

                          sorry for the confusion on the NFA issue....that was my error. However that putting rifle length uppers on an AR pistol does create other issues one should be aware of.

                          Some are covered in this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ight=AR+pistol

                          And check this post specifically for issues regarding OAL: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...89&postcount=3

                          You could find yourself converting your pistol to a long gun....which is ok......but then you cannot convert it back to a pistol once you do so.

                          As stated.....just get a lockable case or transport in the trunk. seperating the upper does not change its pistol status. It's a pistol.....transport it according to pistol transport rules.....period.
                          Last edited by Untamed1972; 04-17-2012, 4:07 PM.
                          "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                          Quote for the day:
                          "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                          • #14
                            L4D
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                            • Sep 2009
                            • 3053

                            Well. I have a truck.

                            I'll play it safe and lock it up for transport.

                            kooks! lol
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                            • #15
                              Rocket Man
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 513

                              Originally posted by L4D
                              Well. I have a truck.

                              I'll play it safe and lock it up for transport.

                              kooks! lol
                              Big 5 tennis racket case, lock the zippers together with a small padlock, cheep & discrete.

                              I have a Milwakee plastic tool case, I cut the blowmold out & put foam in, lock tabs & fits right in being a contractor.
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