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  • Sheperd80
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 431

    M&p 9mm, ammo overview

    Hey folks thought id do a breakdown of how this guns been running. Ive had my m&p 9mm for about 3 months now, and put over 2000 rounds through it. Overall i love it. Accurate, great ergos, i like all the features, the trigger is good imho (im not spoiled by competition triggers like alot of ppl), not a huge fan of the magazine disconnect but to me thats minor....

    I havent had alot of the problems i hear about. My only complaint so far is that its been pretty picky with ammo, not including quality jhp loads which all shot perfectly so far. Heres what ive shot so far in chronological order with my observations. All are cheap 115gr target loads. Gun was cleaned after almost every range trip...

    *edited to add yestedays shooting; rem and wwb*

    Remington umc 350 rds, consistent accuracy, no failures of any kind

    Federal fmj 600 rds, occaisional flyers, otherwise accurate, no failures

    American eagle fmj 100 rds, consistent accuracy, no failures

    Fiocchi fmj 100 rds, occaisional flyers, 5 fail to fire, with dented primers all of which fired on second attempt

    Tulammo steel fmj, 100 rds, wildly innaccurate, 6 fail to fire with dented primers all of which fired on second attempt, dirty as hell.

    ~~After those 2 bad sessions i decided to clean the striker channel incase it was light striking~~

    Pmc fmj 100 rds, seemed average in every way, no failures

    Winchester white box 700 rds in 2 separate range days, half decent accuracy if you dont count a flyer or two almost every mag, 2 fail to fire with dented primer but did NOT fire on secnd attempt, dirty as hell. This is the only ammo that actually leaves large visible bits of crap throught the gun.



    Its possible i got some crap in the firing pin hole after first few cleanings which may have caused light strikes. Or maybe it came gunked up from factory as ive heard others say. So i cant totally right off fiocchi yet, tulammo however is never goin in my gun again.

    All accuracy comments are based on free standing at 10, 15, and 20 yrds. Yes the flyers could just be me im not trained in any way, but i know what im capable of with more pricey ammo.

    Any thoughts, suggestions, etc are welcomed! Feel free to Add your experiences with the m&p to this for comparison.

    And now i have a funny story. It was the tulammo day, i had torn through my paper targets so for my very last 10 rd mag i set up 4 beer bottles and 1rubber ducky at 20 yards. Took at the bottles in 5 shots then proceeded to miss the rubber ducks 5 times in a row. My stepson was pissed, we both rly wanted to see it lose its head tofinish off our day. While packing up my crap and cursing tulammo i found one of the dented rounds in my pocket so i chambered it and casualy one hand aimed at the duck which was now around 30 yrds since we hhd started wlking up the hill... POW right in the kisser. Split his face in half. My stepson was amused, it was a highlight to a dissapointing dy of shooting.
    Last edited by Sheperd80; 04-17-2012, 9:46 PM.
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    oneeyebear
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 159

    Very nice =D ...always feel like a pro when I make those kinds of shots.
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    • #3
      BHPFan
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 2264

      Thank you for Great review.

      I own an M&P9C. However, I haven't shot it as extensively as you. Your review gives me recommendation on what ammo to purchase for range.

      Best.
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      • #4
        ssteve
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 856

        Nice review, I have one thats been flawless(and currently for sale), and will be getting a M&P9L to replace it with. Perfect ergo's and love the recoil.

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        • #5
          c3 rolling
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 726

          Sheperd I think you should send it to S&W for examination. At 2k rounds, there be not be enough buildup in the firing pin channel to slow the striker (unless you got a lot of oil/solvent in there). I've fired 20k+ rounds through my Glock without a full detail strip and did not have single light primer strike, half of the rounds being Tulammo/Wolf. Steel case ammo tends to have harder primers but I've never experienced any issues with inaccuracy or light primer strikes on Glocks and 1911's and I've been buying them for years. I do not own an M&P but everyone I know says they are not picky on ammo and are as reliable as Glocks. My S&W Bodyguard .380 had pretty bad light primer strike issue and S&W fixed it right up.

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          • #6
            Sheperd80
            Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 431

            Originally posted by c3 rolling
            Sheperd I think you should send it to S&W for examination. At 2k rounds, there be not be enough buildup in the firing pin channel to slow the striker (unless you got a lot of oil/solvent in there). I've fired 20k+ rounds through my Glock without a full detail strip and did not have single light primer strike, half of the rounds being Tulammo/Wolf. Steel case ammo tends to have harder primers but I've never experienced any issues with inaccuracy or light primer strikes on Glocks and 1911's and I've been buying them for years. I do not own an M&P but everyone I know says they are not picky on ammo and are as reliable as Glocks. My S&W Bodyguard .380 had pretty bad light primer strike issue and S&W fixed it right up.
            Yeah i talked to them recently about a scratch inside my barrel. I'm sending it in with a letter detailing the light strikes as well. Hopefully they live up to their reputation I really wanna love this pistol and without the exception of these reliability issues, I do. But I'm not the type to defend my purchase just becase i wanna like it. If they don't straighten it out ill gladly sell it and get something else.
            Last edited by Sheperd80; 04-17-2012, 9:51 PM.

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            • #7
              NorCal Einstein
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1242

              I've put over 4,000 rounds through my M&P9 Pro Series now. All those rounds come from 8 different brands/types of ammo and I've had zero failures so far. Just wanted to come in here and let you know that in my experience you don't have to have a clean gun to have solid reliability. I have probably only cleaned the gun 6-7 times, and I've gone twice now where it's been over 1,000 rounds before a cleaning. And even when I do clean it, I don't really touch the striker channel.

              How old/new is your M&P? Do you know when it was manufactured/test fired from factory?

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              • #8
                BajaJames83
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2011
                • 6033

                I've shot about 3000 .40 and 3000 9MM through my M&P with only 3 FTF and they were bad reloads ( didn't shoot out of 3 other guns). I've only throughly cleaned it once after the first 1K. Since then its only gotten a few drops of lube and the outside wiped down. I have to say this is quickly becoming my favorite pistol. It has ate everything I've fed it and keeps asking for more.
                You may have a issue with yours, call Smith and they should fix it asap.
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                • #9
                  Shenaniguns
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 6158

                  If you use too much oil to clean it may have made it's way into the striker area slowing it down. over lubrication causes problems with striker type handguns.

                  Edit: I forgot that I had 2 failures to fire early on with RWS ammo which was fixed after I installed the newer silver striker that is heavier, has more leverage and a stronger striker spring.
                  My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                  • #10
                    nocomply25
                    Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 273

                    I recently purchased an MP9, thanks for the ammo recommendations! From what i hear they are good about taking care of any issues, keep us posted after they take a look at it.

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                    • #11
                      Shenaniguns
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 6158

                      Make sure the striker area isn't saturated with oil before you waste your time sending it.
                      My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.

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                      • #12
                        Mr.1904
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 3310

                        Ive had my m&p 9mm for about 3 months now, and put over 2000 rounds through it.
                        3 months 2,000 rounds?

                        I WISH i had that kinda time... and money

                        Good review though. The real question is what did Mr. Rubberducky do to face the firing squad
                        Last edited by Mr.1904; 04-18-2012, 1:14 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Legasat
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                          • Mar 2009
                          • 4151

                          I own 3 M&P's and have never had a light strike. You are doing the right thing sending it back.
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                          • #14
                            HilaryForPresident
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 46

                            good to know. thanks.

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                            • #15
                              Sheperd80
                              Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 431

                              Originally posted by NorCal Einstein
                              I've put over 4,000 rounds through my M&P9 Pro Series now. All those rounds come from 8 different brands/types of ammo and I've had zero failures so far. Just wanted to come in here and let you know that in my experience you don't have to have a clean gun to have solid reliability. I have probably only cleaned the gun 6-7 times, and I've gone twice now where it's been over 1,000 rounds before a cleaning. And even when I do clean it, I don't really touch the striker channel.

                              How old/new is your M&P? Do you know when it was manufactured/test fired from factory?
                              Not sure about manufacture date but it was test fired in November 2011.

                              Only reason I cleaned the striker channel was because of the failures. I looked inside again yesterday and there's a ring of black build up around the firing pin hole. Im Having a hard time cleaning it out so I'm hoping Smith will take care of it.

                              I probably over lubed it, this is my first handgun and I babied it and o er cleaned it after my first few outings.

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