my new toy

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1851 confederate navy

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her history

ok checking the history of my gun and who made it. There were 3 manufactures of this gun. Actually there were 4 but only 3 made in brass. The confederate used brass as steel was very hard to find due to the war. One of the manufactures for sure did not make this as their gun is totally different. The other two makers made exact copies of this gun. The first one is Schneider & Glassick .44cal Scroll down on this link look for the gun. http://members.tripod.com/rprca/ModelsOther.html problem is there are no known copies of this firearm except for a few that are in museums. The other manufacture is Griswold Gunnison now this manufacture made exact guns just like mine. In fact there is one selling on Gunbrokers.com. A auction firearms house. The asking price is 17000. This gun looks exactly like my gun. Minus the Texas and star on the grips. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=88123332

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20ameri...swold%20gb.htm

So with out any further do. i found the history of my 44. Its a fine made gun. I think i will hold on to this for a while. Ya its only a replica but im gonna keeper

[Scarecrow Repair]

If you don't already have one, may I suggest an 1858 Remington replica next? It's a stronger frame with a top strap, much easier to take apart for cleaning, and you can swap cylinders in a few seconds (drop the rammer halfway, pull the cylinder pin, and the cylinder falls out if at half cock). Spare cylinders are around $40, I think, and you can get desk loaders to preload (watch those caps!). You can also get conversion cylinders which hold black powder cartridges, but they are expensive.

I have both, and the Remington is a lot easier to deal with. My 1851 replica has a weak spring and doesn't always fire, and taking it apart for cleaning is a pain in the posterior compared to the Remington. The only real trick to the Remington is making sure you keep the cylinder pin clean and lubed, otherwise it gets so gunked up after 3-4 loads that I can't pull it out with my fingers and have to get out the rubber mallet.

There's no difference in loading; both are excellent. I have a LeMat replica and the rammer is truly awful, but it comes apart for cleaning even easier than the Remington.

I think you can get stainless and brass framed versions too.

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i actually have an 1860 on the way getting it sometime next week.

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pics are not the greatest until i can take some more later on this afternoon. my second new toy arrived today.

1860 Army 44 cal

[blackbok]

Man I am drooling. Very nice!

[Diablo]

Nice. I like...Are those single action?

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Replicas

Scrat, Nice revolvers. But if you want historically accurate guns, spend a little
more and get a steel framed 1860 Army. There never was a brass framed 1860, until the replica makers decided to make it a little cheaper. I have a Uberti(Now owned by Beretta)1860 ARMY, steel frame, fully fluted cylinder. It's a beautiful revolver. You can also get the 1860 Set up for a detachable
shoulder stock. you will find, that if you shoot it a lot, the brass frame will not hold up very well. I also own a replica 1842 Patterson .36 The Patterson
was Colt's first revolver design. Both are a lot of fun. My Long arm is an 1842
Rifled Musket. .69 Caliber. Black powder is a lot of fun!

[USN CHIEF]

Man, I love those revolvers, I am still drooling. I always wanted a revolver when I was a kid so that I could be like Wyatt Earp.

[cactuspete]

I've always wanted one of those replicas. Think they are totally cool. Can imagine the looks you'd get at the range from the Glock crowd. I've spent alot of time on the Cimarron website. Am pretty sure a U.S. Fire Arms Rodeo or Cowboy will be next, though.

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New Toy

Some years ago, I was working with a UCLA student film crew shooting a
civil war documemtary, using reenactors. We were in a backcountry area
near Thousand Oaks. I was portraying a Federal Colonel of Infantry. After firing a couple of cylinders of blanks, for the crew, one of the students, asked,rather sneeringly,"Were those things ever accurate?" I replied,"Let me demonstrate. I walked back to my truck, reloaded with six live rounds. Choosing a safe backstop, I took six soda cans and placed them 50 paces down range. I then proceed to fire six shots, sending all six cans flying. I looked at the kid and said,"You tell me." I then policed up all six cans and returned to the filming. You might take note, that the revolver issued to the
Three Regular Army Federal Cavalry Regiments and many of the Volunteer regiments was the Colt 1860 Army.

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Scrat, Nice revolvers. But if you want historically accurate guns, spend a little
more and get a steel framed 1860 Army. There never was a brass framed 1860, until the replica makers decided to make it a little cheaper. I have a Uberti(Now owned by Beretta)1860 ARMY, steel frame, fully fluted cylinder. It's a beautiful revolver. You can also get the 1860 Set up for a detachable
shoulder stock. you will find, that if you shoot it a lot, the brass frame will not hold up very well. I also own a replica 1842 Patterson .36 The Patterson
was Colt's first revolver design. Both are a lot of fun. My Long arm is an 1842
Rifled Musket. .69 Caliber. Black powder is a lot of fun!

WRONG

there were 3 makers of brass frame revolvers. By the confederate states.
Griswold and Gunnison was one of the makers, Schneider & Glassick was the other Spill & Burr was the other. You can learn more about Civil War guns on this link. http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20ameri...edere%20gb.htm

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IN FACT there is a griswold and gunnison 1860 revolver being sold right now on gun brokers. if you have $15,500 or more it can be yours. looks just like mine.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88123332

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Griswold&Gunnison

I am not wrong. If you look closely at the Colt 1860 Army, you will see that
the Barrel, from muzzle to where it joins the frame is one smoothly rounded forging and the top of the loading lever has teeth similar to a gear. It is what is called a creeping type. The Griswold has a two piece barrel, with the barrel itself screwed into the flat sided piece that joins to the frame and the loading lever is smooth, along the top. It is similar to the 1851 and the earlier 3rd model Dragoon. Although they may have also called it an 1860, it is not the same as the Colt 1860 Army. the current brass framed 1860 replicas are of the Colt, therefore historically incorrect. But the brass frames are still fun to shoot!