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  • em9sredbeam
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 3429

    460 Smith most ammo hollowtips? why?

    I recently bought a 460 Smith, 8 3/8" and I noticed almost all the ammo for it, and 454 casul are hollowtips. Why is that? Are they better for hunting or just work better for higher velocity rounds? What would be better to use for a bear round? Just out of curiosity. Hollowtip or solid lead?
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    MongooseV8
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 4426

    At the velocity and weight the 460 screams at you get plenty of penetration so you don't need a jacketed round nose unless you want to punch a hole all the way through the moon lol. I use 300 grain HP hornady xtp mags in my 460. I roll my own since I don't want to pay $79.99 for a box of 20.

    I have read a lot of hunting success with lead bullets as well, I just prefer a nice jacket.

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    • #3
      Munk
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 2124

      Originally posted by MongooseV8
      At the velocity and weight the 460 screams at you get plenty of penetration so you don't need a jacketed round nose unless you want to punch a hole all the way through the moon lol. I use 300 grain HP hornady xtp mags in my 460. I roll my own since I don't want to pay $79.99 for a box of 20.

      I have read a lot of hunting success with lead bullets as well, I just prefer a nice jacket.
      Everything this person said is spot on.

      If the OP wants RN or FP bullets, they can start casting some lead. Just remember to adjust the loadings accordingly.
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      • #4
        Bug Splat
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2007
        • 6561

        If someone is shooting a 460 at something chances are they want it DEAD! Its not a round for punching holes in paper or shooting tin cans.

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        • #5
          CGT80
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 2981

          My hot 460 loads are 240 grain hornady xtp mag hollow point bullets over 45 grains of win 296 for 19xx feet per second. This load will put a hole right through a 6" thick piece of lumber that the range uses to staple paper targets to. There is some splintering on the backside, and I haven't found any of the bullets yet. I think they buried themselves into the berm. This is at 30 yards.

          I have used 200 grain fp jacketed 45 colt bullets, 228 gr lead RN that were designed for a 45 acp, 250 grain FP copper coated bullets, 200 grain moly coated LRN bullets also for 45 acp, and now I am going to try some 270 grain hollow point lead bullets that I casted this weekend. I have only run the xtp's up to 1900fps. Everything else was used at 1100fps or less.

          The 460 S&W 8 3/8" is a great range gun if you reload. My loads with the hornady bullets only cost 70 cents each or so. My 45 long colt loads with my own cast bullets cost me 8 cents per round.

          Hollow points are more accurate in race guns than some other designs, by just a little. Also the base of the hollow point is not exposed like a FMJ. A CMJ does not have an exposed base. There are some pointed hornady rounds available for the 460 if I remember correctly. Most people buying factory ammo for a 460 probably plan to kill with it. Any bullet design will kill steel and paper for me.

          Try a 200-250 grain bullet over 11 grains of trail boss in a 460 case with a large rifle primer, if you reload. It is very fun, and light recoiling. Trail boss powder is a great light load powder as long as you don't compress it. It will work with any bullet and the max load is when the powder is filled to the bottom of the bullet, in the case. I could shoot these loads for hours on end.

          Also, there are some extreme performance lead gas checked bullets out there for the 460 also. I think buffalo bore was the name of one ammo company that makes them. I have head of people who have custom made bullet molds to cast up to a 400-500 grain bullet for the 460. They say that heavy lead bullets work just as well or better than a jacketed bullet for hunting.
          Last edited by CGT80; 04-09-2012, 11:47 PM.
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          • #6
            Neptune
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 1165

            That .460 also shoots .454 and .45 Colt.

            I only carry solids in big bear country. Everywhere else, I carry hollow points, often in reduced loads. I'd never go for my .454 solids when self defense against a person is an issue as penetration and power is way too much. When it's not being used as a hunting/bear defense handgun, I keep good .45 Colt loads, or reduced power .454 hollowpoints in the gun. You won't be as likely to take out half the neighborhood that way.




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