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  • johncmng
    Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 340

    Glock 20C vs Glock 20

    Since the G20 has a ported comp on the barrel, I assuming, it will have a slower velocity than the G20 with out the ported barrel. Therefore, is it safe to pack more powder into the case to "make up" for the lose in velocity? I will be reloading this cartridge and will be measuring it with a chrono.
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    tundraotto
    Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 100

    no - the pressure spike happens before the bullet reaches the compensator. You would just increase the pressure level.

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    • #3
      civilsnake
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 2261

      The difference in velocity would be negligible. But no, it's not safe to load powder beyond specification due to pressure in the chamber. The velocity isn't the issue. Stick with published loads until you're ready to incrementally step up through experimentation.

      You'd do well to post this in the reloading forum, as well.
      Then another horse PONY came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a huge sword. My kinda guy.

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        Oceanbob
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2010
        • 12720

        No...you would just produce more 'Flaming Dirt' .

        I reload 10 and just follow known recipes.

        A good resource with some speeds and barrel lengths is here:

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          DRAB_81
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 2482

          Skip the "C" model, it's not worth it in my eyes. As Bob said, about the only thing that's guaranteed is flames and unburned powder shooting up into your line of sight. The porting is probably not enough to have a significant effect on recoil/muzzle flip, and negligible effect on muzzle velocity. The 10mm is very powerful, but the ported barrel isn't necessary. The Glock 20's heavy slide & large frame soaks up a ton of recoil, and make follow up shots fast and easy.

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          • #6
            johncmng
            Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 340

            Originally posted by Oceanbob
            No...you would just produce more 'Flaming Dirt' .

            I reload 10 and just follow known recipes.

            A good resource with some speeds and barrel lengths is here:

            http://www.gunblast.com/10mm.htm
            Great article. I was surprise that the velocity increased with a comp.

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            • #7
              Noah3683
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2256

              Originally posted by meathead9
              Skip the "C" model, it's not worth it in my eyes. As Bob said, about the only thing that's guaranteed is flames and unburned powder shooting up into your line of sight. The porting is probably not enough to have a significant effect on recoil/muzzle flip, and negligible effect on muzzle velocity. The 10mm is very powerful, but the ported barrel isn't necessary. The Glock 20's heavy slide & large frame soaks up a ton of recoil, and make follow up shots fast and easy.
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              Originally posted by Neil McCauley
              Are you actually suppost to "taste" wood?
              Originally posted by Neil McCauley
              Just wish I knew what wood in your meat is suppost to taste like.

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                civilsnake
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 2261

                Originally posted by johncmng
                Great article. I was surprise that the velocity increased with a comp.
                Well the difference is that the Comp on the LW top was added to the end of the barrel, whereas the Glock "C" models are ported before the end of the standard barrel. So it's not really the same thing.
                Then another horse PONY came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a huge sword. My kinda guy.

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                • #9
                  DRAB_81
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2482

                  Originally posted by tundraotto
                  no - the pressure spike happens before the bullet reaches the compensator. You would just increase the pressure level.
                  If that were true, there would be no such thing as a 9mm Major Open Gun. Compensators do have an effect on pressure in pistols. Try and shoot some 9 Major rounds through a stock G17 and see what happens. Also, like said above, a comp'd barrel is an entirely different animal than a ported barrel.

                  9 Major = 115gr @ 1480fps or 124gr @ 1370fps.

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                  • #10
                    modls7
                    Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 414

                    Originally posted by meathead9
                    If that were true, there would be no such thing as a 9mm Major Open Gun. Compensators do have an effect on pressure in pistols. Try and shoot some 9 Major rounds through a stock G17 and see what happens. Also, like said above, a comp'd barrel is an entirely different animal than a ported barrel.

                    9 Major = 115gr @ 1480fps or 124gr @ 1370fps.
                    What he meant was, pressure is highest while the bullet is making initial movement. That's why bullet setback is dangerous, it increases pressure early on. Simply adding powder because pressure is lost down the line is not always safe. A comp will not lower this initial pressure until the bullet has traveled down the barrel and gas starts venting.

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