Limpwristing 1911

[jcaoloveshine]

If you limpwrist a 1911 (eg: newb holds the gun without enough pressure against the back of the grip), is it possible for a 1911 to fail to return to battery?

Wondering physics-wise if this is plausible, and if anyone here has experienced it.

[NSR500]

Yes, I have seen it. The owner of a 1911 was shooting and the gun was running 100%. He then allows a new shooter a chance to shoot the gun and it doesn't run 100%. The gun occasionally shot and ejected the spent casing, but failed to chamber the next round.

[Henry47]

isn't this true of all semi automatic handguns? if you limp wrist, the slide will not have enough momentum to basically get into battery.

[jcaoloveshine]

I was pondering that and that's what I thought too.

Physics wise, imagining your wrist as a sort of barrier against which the force of the slide going backwards acts. If your hand is loose, more force goes in pushing the gun frame back into your hand. That means less force moving the slide back, and so less force on the slide as it returns to battery and thus FTRB.

I wonder if this would be more or less likely to happen on polymer vs steel guns.

[MA2]

I do believe a limp hold will increase a chance of a stovepipe jam.

As far as not getting into battery with no jam, I don't see that happening...the recoil spring has to malfunction.

[lawhite92]

I know someone that slightly limp waisted his shots and the guns would work fine but upon emptying the mag the slide wouldn't catch in the open position all the time

[Turo]

If you limpwrist a 1911 (eg: newb holds the gun without enough pressure against the back of the grip), is it possible for a 1911 to fail to return to battery?

Wondering physics-wise if this is plausible, and if anyone here has experienced it.

It's possible for a 1911 to not go fully into battery for a host of reasons. Hell, mine sometimes doesn't go into battery for no reason at all!

But yes, if the gun is limp-wristed, the slide can fail to reach the maximum rearward travel, and thus not have the velocity to extract the next round from the magazine during its return trip back into battery.

Take it from an (almost) engineer.

[geedavell]

I have a Para Warthog that I hated when I first bought it. I called them to arrange to have it shipped back for them to look at, then they ask if that was the first "small" 45 I've shot. They told me it's common and sure enough that fixed the feeding issue. I read that it's much more common with short barreled autos due to the short recoil spring

[jakuda]

This is especially true for those who shoot one handed. If you lose concentration and your grip loosens slightly, one of two things will generally happen: 1) stovepipe or 2) short cycle. #2 is easiest, you can just yank back the slide, and manually cycle the round into the chamber.