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  • Shintao
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 51

    Threaded Barrel

    I have a family member moving from WA to CA, and they have the Tactical PX 4 storm in .45, which has a longer threaded barrel. I know the gun itself can be brought in to CA, but I don't think the threaded barrel is allowed.

    Can y'all out there either confirm or deny this?

    Thanks
  • #2
    NorCal Einstein
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 1242

    You are correct.

    When in doubt, refer to the flowchart. Specifically, step 16 of the chart.

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    • #3
      Kodemonkey
      • Jun 2010
      • 2904

      Nope, gun can come - threaded barrel is a no no. Bring it in with a replacement barrel with NO THREADS and it is okay. They can cap the thread if it is made permanent, but I wouldn't even risk that (plus it makes it a real pain to clean!). Just have him buy a replacement barrel or sell the PX4 before he leaves WA.

      Here is the Penal code (PC 30515):

      (4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

      (A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.

      (B) A second handgrip.

      (C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.

      (D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
      Last edited by Kodemonkey; 03-29-2012, 12:23 PM.

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      • #4
        johncmng
        Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 340

        Just curious, Can you get a thread protector and use locktite on it? Or can you modify the thread protector that uses a tool to remove it? Similar to a way the bullet button is used. Must require a tool to remove.

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        • #5
          keenkeen
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2011
          • 6782

          Originally posted by johncmng
          Just curious, Can you get a thread protector and use locktite on it? Or can you modify the thread protector that uses a tool to remove it? Similar to a way the bullet button is used. Must require a tool to remove.
          Perm Red loctite is assumed by many to be ok...

          It's not like a BB...it must be capped in a way that cannot be removed with tools.
          "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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          • #6
            Shintao
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 51

            Thanks for all the replys, is there by chance a registration requirement as well?

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            • #7
              stix213
              AKA: Joe Censored
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2009
              • 18998

              Originally posted by Shintao
              Thanks for all the replys, is there by chance a registration requirement as well?
              Yes, handguns imported into CA have to be registered now. See below.

              Pursuant to Penal Code sections 17000 and 27560, any person who moves into California with a firearm is considered a "Personal Firearm Importer" and is required by California law to do one of the following within 60 days: Complete and submit a New Resident Report of Firearm Ownership (BOF 4010A), pdf along with $19.00 to the California Department of Justice, Bureau of Firearms; Sell or transfer the firearm to a California licensed firearms dealer or to another individual using a California licensed firearms dealer to conduct the transaction; or Sell or transfer the firearm to a California


              Originally posted by CA DOJ
              Any person who moves into California and who brings any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person is considered to be a "Personal Handgun Importer" and is required to do one of the following within 60 days:

              Complete and submit a NEW RESIDENT HANDGUN OWNERSHIP REPORT form along with $19.00 to the Department of Justice. A separate report form and $19.00 fee is required for each handgun reported. NEW RESIDENT HANDGUN OWNERSHIP REPORT forms can be obtained from California Department of Motor Vehicles' offices, licensed firearms dealers, local police and sheriff's departments, the California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms at (916) 263-4887, and from the Online Forms Page at this site.
              Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California licensed firearms dealer or to another individual using a California licensed firearms dealer to conduct the transaction.

              or
              Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California police or sheriff's department. Persons choosing this option should contact the law enforcement agency for instructions prior to transporting the handgun(s) to the agency.

              Any person transporting handguns in California is required under California law to transport those handguns unloaded and in a locked container other than the glove compartment or utility compartment of a vehicle.

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              • #8
                CriticallyStressed
                Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 370

                Re: Registration

                Yes, if you move in from out of state you must register all handguns within 60-days. See this link: http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991

                Basically you fill out a registration form for each gun and mail in $19 with each form. The guns don't have to be on the roster of approved handguns (moving in from out of state is considered an exception). As others have pointed out, your friend must remove the threaded barrel before coming across the border. There is no law against possession, however, so he can keep it for when he goes out of state or if he moves back to another state but he should not install the threaded barrel while in CA.

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                • #9
                  DDRH
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 2756

                  You can have the threaded barrel, just can't be assembled to use with the gun. So keep the threaded barrel for out of state use

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                  • #10
                    Shintao
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 51

                    So what I need to do is tell him to buy some off roster guns, to then sell in CA to those of us who can't get things like XDms or Gen 4 glocks

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                    • #11
                      DDRH
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 2756

                      i recommend NOT using anything permanent thread protector method...i don't own a px4, but generally, if you have a thread protector on, you'd have to remove it to take the barrel out.

                      if it's permanent, then how do you disassemble the gun?

                      Best option is to purchase a non-threaded barrel to use as a replacement.

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                      • #12
                        CriticallyStressed
                        Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 370

                        Originally posted by Shintao
                        So what I need to do is tell him to buy some off roster guns, to then sell in CA to those of us who can't get things like XDms or Gen 4 glocks
                        This is certainly possible, however we can get those guns via a more costly/complicated workaround known as the Single-Shot Exemption (SSE), do some searches to see what it's all about.

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                        • #13
                          Aznatama
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 109

                          PPT has to be done in person I believe, so no shipping.

                          As for the TB, what about a bullet-button type of mag lock?
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                          • #14
                            Kodemonkey
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 2904

                            Originally posted by GTXR390

                            if it's permanent, then how do you disassemble the gun?

                            Best option is to purchase a non-threaded barrel to use as a replacement.

                            You can't! That's why I said it would be a pain to clean. It's not worth the hassle in my opinion to try to make a permanent thread cap. If you really HAD to do it, I would research how S&W fixed their threaded barrel snafu with that Walther 22 pistol they sold in CA with a threaded barrel. They paid shipping to have the gun sent back to them and they figured out a way to pin a thread cap to the barrel. Whatever they did was satisfactory to CA DOJ because they were involved and aware of the incident.

                            But, don't bother man. It's just not worth it. Tell your friend to get a new barrel if he wants to keep the gun in CA.

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                            • #15
                              keenkeen
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2011
                              • 6782

                              Originally posted by Aznatama
                              PPT has to be done in person I believe, so no shipping.

                              As for the TB, what about a bullet-button type of mag lock?[/


                              Nope, the barrel threads have the be permanently capped it you want to use that barrel in CA (see my pot above)
                              "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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