Whoopsed?

[Tedd153]

Hi all,

I'm in a conumdrum.

It looks like I paid for an off roster from gunbroker. before i bid, i checked the list very carefully and the difference is the finish, blued vs. stainless. grips are the same, sights the same, etc. I didn't catch it initially, but my FFL can't dros the gun to me, so he's got it in his possessition (in his bound book). there were 'no returns' on the gun as stated in the auction so returning it is out.

now, what can happen? can I find a buyer for this (out of state), and have my FFL ship to him and be done with it? or should i beg the seller to take it back (which I don't want to do).

thanx!

[RugerFanRyan]

SSE it?

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[Cuda440]

You can have the FFL sell it on consignment to a LEO that is exempt from the roster.

You can sell it to someone out of state and have the FFL ship it there.

You can (depending on the gun) send it to another FFL that is capable of doing a single-shot conversion on it to make the weapon exempt from the roster. After it is then transferred to you, it is legal to return it to non-single shot status.

[Swift Justice]

You can have the FFL sell it on consignment to a LEO that is exempt from the roster.

You can sell it to someone out of state and have the FFL ship it there.

You can (depending on the gun) send it to another FFL that is capable of doing a single-shot conversion on it to make the weapon exempt from the roster. After it is then transferred to you, it is legal to return it to non-single shot status.

^ This.
And I hope the ghost of John M. Browning haunts each and every one of the idiot legislators who voted the roster bill into law...

[Tedd153]

Ok, as i had thought.

I contacted this FFL *twice* regarding this exact model I wantted to buy. He said all of the same model are "fine", so I bought it. I'll talk to him in a few days after i'm calmer about his kitchen table FFL taking it as his own inventory and selling it back online, or me finding a willing buyer.

This particular pistol can't SSE/too expensive to exempt/no parts available.

Now, I can sell it out of state (online) if I haven't even taken posessition of it? How does that work? I guess I'll just get the money from buyer (money order, cleared), and then have my FFL drop it in for Priority Mail (since he's FFL, he can ship that way, hehe).

I have only sold 1 handgun this year, so I'm under 6 to be a "dealer'

[SilverTauron]

Ok, as i had thought.

I contacted this FFL *twice* regarding this exact model I wantted to buy. He said all of the same model are "fine", so I bought it. I'll talk to him in a few days after i'm calmer about his kitchen table FFL taking it as his own inventory and selling it back online, or me finding a willing buyer.

This particular pistol can't SSE/too expensive to exempt/no parts available.

Now, I can sell it out of state (online) if I haven't even taken posessition of it? How does that work? I guess I'll just get the money from buyer (money order, cleared), and then have my FFL drop it in for Priority Mail (since he's FFL, he can ship that way, hehe).

I have only sold 1 handgun this year, so I'm under 6 to be a "dealer'

List it on gunbroker , take the appropriate photos, and go from there.I hope the holding FFL doesn't mind if you stop by to take pictures.

[Tedd153]

I hope he doesn't mind. It's partly his fault for telling me it was fine to buy!

[keenkeen]

I hope he doesn't mind. It's partly his fault for telling me it was fine to buy!

Your purchase...100% your responsibility. And we all wonder why some FFLs don't like doing out of state transfers...

IMO

[Swift Justice]

Your purchase...100% your responsibility. And we all wonder why some FFLs don't like doing out of state transfers...

IMO

Normally I would agree with you, but if he asked his receiving FFL more than once if it was ok, and the FFL said "yes", then the FFL should bear some of the responsibility at least under a detrimental reliance theory. If the FFL said "No" or "I don't know" or "order at your own risk", then different story.

[keenkeen]

Normally I would agree with you, but if he asked his receiving FFL more than once if it was ok, and the FFL said "yes", then the FFL should bear some of the responsibility at least under a detrimental reliance theory. If the FFL said "No" or "I don't know" or "order at your own risk", then different story.

Yes, I can see that point. It's a good lesson to others to make sure you check the roster and confirm before ordering from out of state. I also think the FFL should help the OP as much as they can just as a matter of being a stand up guy.

[Tedd153]

I explicitly asked my FFL for some help with the roster. he said it was fine.

[keenkeen]

I explicitly asked my FFL for some help with the roster. he said it was fine.

This brings us to another very important point...believe very little of what you hear in most gun shops. Especially when it comes to gun laws.