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  • dlark1369
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 17

    are blocked or plugged high cap mags legal in cali?

    I recently purchased a glock 21 from my friends father. It came with 5 13 rd mags, I did not accept them however I'm curious if he had them plugged I could then legally take possession of them... I have asked different ffl dealers and most say that if I plug or block the mags to where they only accept 10 rds that they would then be legal to possess. I live in California and I'm 25 so its obvious I didn't buy them pre ban. Should I plug them or throw them away and not risk the felony...? Any info would help. I checked the doj website and this info wasn't available. Thanks
    Last edited by dlark1369; 03-23-2012, 6:30 PM. Reason: made a mistake
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    corcoraj2002
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 636

    Break them down to parts so if you go to a free state you can use them.
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    • #3
      paul0660
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      • Jul 2007
      • 15669

      You could have possessed them pre ban, or through some amazing luck, found them later. However, having asked here that idea is moot.

      They can be blocked to only hold 10 rounds. Solder, epoxy, etc. You could sell those mag kits to others and replace them with 10 rounders as well.
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      • #4
        Bartin
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        • Jan 2011
        • 422

        magazines: all you need to know
        Try searching before posting something. It's likely been covered. Many times
        Last edited by Bartin; 03-23-2012, 1:54 PM.

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        • #5
          Lead Waster
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          • Sep 2010
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          My advice is to take them apart and buy new 10 rounders. Luckily Glock magazines are not ridiculously expensive (CZ75 10 rounds magazines are $45 each!), and like you said, it's not worth the trouble.

          Since the G21 is fairly popular and there are a bunch of people who had them before the CA law that banned their sale, you could probably find people who legitimately have worn out 13 rounders that you could sell to, but you'd probably get less than what an online rebuild kit would sell for, and again, maybe not worth the trouble.

          If you want, feel free to throw them into my backyard so I can find legally find them!

          Seriously though, the three mags are like $60 worth of kit. $60 is not worth a felony. Return the mags to your friend's dad, since he can legally own them, in case he wants to buy another G21 at some point in time.
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            Sabby
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            • #7
              teflondog
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              • Jun 2009
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              Originally posted by dlark1369
              I live in California and I'm 25 so its obvious I didn't buy them pre ban.
              On the contrary, you could have bought them pre ban when you were barely a teenager. I learned that there's no age limit to buy magazines.
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              • #8
                dlark1369
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                • Mar 2012
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                There is no age limit to buy magazines? Haha so when I was 12 I could have walked into a gun store and bought mags for a gun I would someday own....Haha don't think that would hold strong in court. And at bartin, I've already read that link. Considering my age it would be hard to tell a cop I bought them when they were legal. Or . I guess ill just sell them and buy some gay cal legal 10 round mags. Thanks for the help everyone

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                • #9
                  Oceanbob
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                  • Jun 2010
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                  I would break them down into individual kits, each in a plastic bag. Then sell them in the Cal Guns marketplace:



                  AS REBUILD Kits

                  Get that money and buy brand new 10 rounders.

                  Congrats on the G21...great weapon.

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                  • #10
                    Lead Waster
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                    • Sep 2010
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                    Uh yeah, you can't sell them as magazines, you have to disassemble them and sell them as rebuild or repair kits. You can't sell, import, make, etc, etc. The weird thing about BUYING them is that although you are not selling them, you are involved in an illegal transaction because the guy selling them to you is committing a felony.

                    Weird, I know.

                    Well, briefly, between 1994 and 1999 if you had those 13 rounders, you could have sold them for $100 a piece because they weren't illegal to sell if you had them. Maybe this is FUD, don't listen to me!
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                    • #11
                      Bartin
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                      • Jan 2011
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                      Originally posted by dlark1369
                      There is no age limit to buy magazines? Haha so when I was 12 I could have walked into a gun store and bought mags for a gun I would someday own....Haha don't think that would hold strong in court. And at bartin, I've already read that link. Considering my age it would be hard to tell a cop I bought them when they were legal. Or . I guess ill just sell them and buy some gay cal legal 10 round mags. Thanks for the help everyone
                      If you read and comprehended the link then you wouldn't have needed to create this thread.

                      7) Yes, you can take one of those kits and create a 10-round magazine from the parts and some method of blocking the capacity; one example here.

                      You also would have realized your scenario involved someone breaking the law and you admitted on here that it was broken.

                      8) You can have "large-capacity magazines"; no one may give them or sell them to you in California, and you may not give or sell them to anyone else in California. This includes sales from LEO and intrafamilial transfers - that would be included in selling and that can be charged as a felony.

                      I suggest you edit the thread so you aren't discussing an actual felony and change the capacity of those magazines or break them down into parts
                      Last edited by Bartin; 03-23-2012, 4:04 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Lead Waster
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                        • Sep 2010
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                        By the way, in answer to your thread title, I don't believe blocked/plugged magazines are illegal because they are 10 round magazines. If you have magazine parts and put them together into a 10 round magazine, that's legal. So if you had a 16 round magazine body, welded or pinned in a block, then finished assembling it, you are assembling a 10 round magazine, because the 16 round body is not a functional magazine, it's just a magazine body. As long as no fully functional 10+ round magazine changes hands, it's OK.
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                        • #13
                          Capybara
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                          • Feb 2012
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                          Much ado about nothing.
                          5, 10, and 15 round magazine capacity limiters for rifle and pistol magazines of all sizes. Convert magazines to hold 5, 10, or 15 rounds.


                          I have an Uzi, there is no such thing as an Uzi 10 round magazine so by necessity, I have to buy 32 rounders as parts kits and the magblocks to be legal in California. Zach who runs that site is a cool guy, he will take care of you.
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                          • #14
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                            Glad when I was a kid my grandpa use to buy me mags to play with alongside my GiJoes lol.
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                            • #15
                              Sam
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                              Originally posted by dlark1369
                              There is no age limit to buy magazines? Haha so when I was 12 I could have walked into a gun store and bought mags for a gun I would someday own....Haha don't think that would hold strong in court. And at bartin, I've already read that link. Considering my age it would be hard to tell a cop I bought them when they were legal. Or . I guess ill just sell them and buy some gay cal legal 10 round mags. Thanks for the help everyone
                              It's not your job to prove or disprove anything. Helpful, but not mandatory. The government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you broke the law. As always, this isn't legal advice and you should consult your own attorney if you do want legal advice.

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