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  • Mike357
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 136

    Handgun training with a weapon light???

    Not sure if this is the right forum but here is my question,

    The 92fs/M9 I am looking into buying does not have a light rail for a weapon light. I like the idea of the weapon light on my gun so that I would not have to hold a light in my other if I have to grab my gun if I hear a bump in the night. Does anyone know where I could learn how to properly use a light either on my gun or not in my home? Perhaps some dvd's that I could learn from? The streamlight tlr-1 is the light im looking for and I think it has a strobe function.
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    knerona
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 844

    You can buy a trigger guard adapter to mount the light.

    What's there to really learn? In the event that you would have to use it in self defense turn on the light, either constant/strobe/momentarily, use the light, be careful on where you point the muzzle and keep your finger off the trigger.

    I run a drill here and there at night just to get familiar with it. I point the muzzle waist level or below and just sweep the room/hall/garage or what not with momentary bursts of light. Just enough to get a quick glimpse of the surrounds and be able to navigate. This works for me, but if I'm doing this wrong, or need better advice I am totally open to it.
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    • #3
      gschoelles
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 669

      Night classes are absolutely the best, and I always enjoy working with weapons mounted and hand held lights. This practice helps with familiarization with handling options and back and front lit targets.

      IMHO, you need both to take all tactical advantages.

      Originally posted by Mike357
      Not sure if this is the right forum but here is my question,

      The 92fs/M9 I am looking into buying does not have a light rail for a weapon light. I like the idea of the weapon light on my gun so that I would not have to hold a light in my other if I have to grab my gun if I hear a bump in the night. Does anyone know where I could learn how to properly use a light either on my gun or not in my home? Perhaps some dvd's that I could learn from? The streamlight tlr-1 is the light im looking for and I think it has a strobe function.
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      • #4
        SuperSet
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2007
        • 9048

        Considering how often shootings happen at night or low light conditions, I'd consider that training a must. Look in the Competition/Training forum for Stan's (Academy St Crispian) Surefire Low Light class. Definitely worth taking.

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          Matt P
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 3071

          As taught in Surefire Classes. From this website. Surefire Low Light Training-Press Me
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            knerona
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 844

            ^^ That's great information. Thanks.
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            • #7
              cfusionpm
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 2926

              You could also look into just getting a Beretta M9A1, it's on CA's roster and has a rail for attaching a light.

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              • #8
                Flopper
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 1280

                Originally posted by gschoelles
                Night classes are absolutely the best, and I always enjoy working with weapons mounted and hand held lights. This practice helps with familiarization with handling options and back and front lit targets.

                IMHO, you need both to take all tactical advantages.
                Hopefully my first night class will answer this also, but I'd like to ask: how is it justified that in order to use a weapon-mounted light, one must break at least one of the 4 safety rules?
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                • #9
                  AeroEngi
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2887

                  Originally posted by cfusionpm
                  You could also look into just getting a Beretta M9A1, it's on CA's roster and has a rail for attaching a light.

                  Ya, what he said.

                  If you haven't bought the gun yet, then you should consider the M9A1. Sounds like it'll fit your purposes much better than the 92fs/m9.

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                  • #10
                    gschoelles
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 669

                    Originally posted by Flopper
                    Hopefully my first night class will answer this also, but I'd like to ask: how is it justified that in order to use a weapon-mounted light, one must break at least one of the 4 safety rules?
                    When operating tactically allowances must be made.

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                    • #11
                      Kempfer
                      Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 176

                      Originally posted by Flopper
                      Hopefully my first night class will answer this also, but I'd like to ask: how is it justified that in order to use a weapon-mounted light, one must break at least one of the 4 safety rules?
                      That exact reason is why a few instructors and LEO I know prefer to become proficient with one handed shooting while using a light in the other hand to search.

                      Also you don't have to shine the light at someone to identify them. With a tac light it can be enough to shine off the floor or wall to identify a target.

                      If you do get to shoot at night I hope you get a good instructor that sends you through good drills. I have done many night shoots and have found that low light shooting requires the most diverse set of skills because situations vary so much.

                      For example some people advocate shooting then turning off the light and moving. Well, that's peachy in some situation but in others that really F's you so you just got to have your head in the game and not default to a certain dogma and have a good toolbox of skills to pull from.

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                      • #12
                        HellnBack
                        Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 173

                        That's why some instructors suggest two flashlights. Use your hand held to ID possible tangos,doing this means you are not in opposite direction of your tango. but there maybe a better way out there guys, keep them coming.

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                        • #13
                          Flopper
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1280

                          Good info guys, thanks!
                          Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound. -- L. Neil Smith

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                          • #14
                            Dhena81
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 4587

                            Originally posted by SuperSet
                            Considering how often shootings happen at night or low light conditions, I'd consider that training a must. Look in the Competition/Training forum for Stan's (Academy St Crispian) Surefire Low Light class. Definitely worth taking.
                            +1 not because I've taken it yet but because I will be in a couple of weeks and having trained with Stan before knowing hes a great instructor and he has very reasonable rates.

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                            • #15
                              Sturnovik
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 2937

                              I was always taught two, one on pistol and one in hand. If I can only have one, I prefer having it in my hand, I like being able to separate the light sources from the pistol. I have nothing against rails though. I'm even thinking about the surefire adapter for an older non railed Sig.

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