glock 17 gen 4 illegal (not on Roster) in CA. why??

[JohnCCW]

That means that
COPS CAN BUY UNSAFE GUNS

Okay - pistols which have not been tested.... just playing libtard

Yes-
AND they can sell those dangerous weapons to YOU!

[230infantry]

That's not how it works.
A resident generally (there are some exceptions, that I won't go into for clarity/simplicity of this topic) can not purchase a firearm out of their home state without the use of an FFL. If you do do it at an FFL the FFL has to send it to an FFL in your state. In other words you can not take possession of it. All state laws are then in effect when the FFL receives it.

So no you can not "bring it back" and no you can not "do the 10 day wait" because you cannot just walk into a shop and DROS a pistol already in your possession to yourself.



So are you a resident of CA or LA?


If you are a resident of CA then if you purchase it at an FFL out of state the FFL would ship it to a FFL in CA and it would have to be DROS'd and do the 10 day wait. Problem is that this is not an exempt method from the Roster so it would still cause the Roster to come into play. So thats not really going to work out unless you're receiving FFL does a SSE or you are an exempt person.

If you are a resident of LA and you purchase it there then you will have no problem bringing it into CA when you move back as long as it is not an assault weapon (threaded barrel, etc) and do not bring in magazines with the capacity to hold over 10 rounds that you did not possess in CA prior to Jan 1st 2000.
You would just fill out the new resident form when you moved here and pay the fee.

im technically a CA resident but since im in the military and im stationed out of state all i need is my orders saying im stationed in louisiana and i can buy a weapon. so since i come back to california in 3 months can i buy a gen 4 glock in louisiana and register it in california when i get out?

[Noonanda]

im technically a CA resident but since im in the military and im stationed out of state all i need is my orders saying im stationed in louisiana and i can buy a weapon. so since i come back to california in 3 months can i buy a gen 4 glock in louisiana and register it in california when i get out?

Yes you can.

[230infantry]

what are the stipulations on that?

[Dvrjon]

im technically a CA resident but since im in the military and im stationed out of state all i need is my orders saying im stationed in louisiana and i can buy a weapon. so since i come back to california in 3 months can i buy a gen 4 glock in louisiana and register it in california when i get out?

Yes you can.

what are the stipulations on that?

See second entry, here:http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Fe...y_requirements

[Dvrjon]

Information on the Roster of Not Unsafe Firearms can be found here: http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/FA...n_Roster.3F.22

4th Generation Glocks changed the pistol to have ambidextrous (switchable) magazine releases. DOJ determined this, and other manufacturing changes constituted a new model. New models have to be tested to be placed on the roster, but before testing, they must have incorporated into their design the following features:
Loaded Chamber Indicator; magazine disconnect. Penal Code 31910. http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/31910.html

State regs have defined requirements for the LCI which requires new design elements. (CCR 4060(d)(1):
https://govt.westlaw.com/calregs/Doc...ta=(sc.Default)

The Glocks do not have magazine disconnects. Since they fail to meet the two standards, they cannot be tested. If not tested, then not on Roster and not to be directly sold to the general (non-exempt) population.

They can be sold through the SSE process (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=383692) or though Private Party Transfer. (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Pr...Party_Transfer).

More info here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=81127
And here: http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...oster_required

Best.

[tonelar]

While I respect the Police I often wondered why they are exempt and special over us.

BTW..OC ARMORY has a GEN4 Glock 17 in stock. Neat weapon.

Bob

When the original Caliban was proposed (including the later ban on magazines) Sacramento got the peace officers on board by exempting them. Otherwise no LE agency would back their proposed laws.

[T6pilot]

FYI the gen 3 Glocks made in USA are not on roster, cause there made here go figure.
Get a gen 4 via SSE while you can

[tacticalcity]

It's illegal for an FFL or private party to import them in standard form. (unless you're exempt from the roster)

A shame really. Hopefully the lawsuit will fix this.

Be well,

Bob

IMPORT? No it's not. It is illegal for an FFL to sell them in standard form. But they can import them that way and then install a single shot exemption compliance kit and sell them...at least for now. The compliance kits do not need to be installed before they are brought into the state. The FFLS doing SSE transfers make their own compliance kits. They keep and reuse them after the DROS is completed. There have been several attempts by the legislature to change this, but for now it is still legal.

To Joe citizen the difference might seem like semantics, but to an FFL researching this it matters a great deal.