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  • cannon
    In Memoriam
    • Aug 2008
    • 8589

    Hypothetical pistol registration question

    A guy with no family lends his pistol to his buddy. Guy then dies.

    Q, How does the buddy register the pistol?
    ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet
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    Arson
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 1818

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    • #3
      Librarian
      Admin and Poltergeist
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 44671

      Originally posted by cannon
      A guy with no family lends his pistol to his buddy. Guy then dies.

      Q, How does the buddy register the pistol?
      Almost no one has NO family.

      Personal property lent to someone still belongs to the estate of the deceased, and should be returned to the executor or the probate administrator.
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      • #4
        Oceanbob
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2010
        • 12720

        Hypothetical Answer.

        1. how old is the pistol?

        2. Was it registered originally? (because before 1991 it didn't have to be)
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        • #5
          cannon
          In Memoriam
          • Aug 2008
          • 8589

          Originally posted by Librarian
          Almost no one has NO family.

          Personal property lent to someone still belongs to the estate of the deceased, and should be returned to the executor or the probate administrator.
          Hypothetical question...
          ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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          • #6
            Squid
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 1041

            Interesting question, as a crew I was working with once found a

            old Thompson sub-machine gun up in an attic but the boss 'disappeared' it and took everyone out to lunch at the strip club. It was "well, if anyone tells anyone it ain't they it is gonna do them any good".


            If you 'find' a motor vehicle or are in process of a "borrow" and owner dies you can just do the "send registered letter to last owner's address on file at DMV" and it will soon be legally yours if no one responds.

            Obviously, that won't work or hold up if any 'funny business' is involved.

            Maybe start off mailing a registered letter to his address, which will at least show you aren't trying to 'steal' the gun from his estate, and might get in touch with his heirs.

            A nice gun ain't like the TV he bought last month or a lawn-mower. Very good chance it would be something a distant heir would be aware he owned, and being as it is a gun in CA I would error on side of caution.

            He MIGHT have legally 'gifted' you a car, TV, stack of $100 bills, etc...but he can't have legally gifted you a gun without a lot of specific paperwork.

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            • #7
              Librarian
              Admin and Poltergeist
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 44671

              Originally posted by Squid

              He MIGHT have legally 'gifted' you a car, TV, stack of $100 bills, etc...but he can't have legally gifted you a gun without a lot of specific paperwork.
              In this case, the question was posed about a loan, and that can be done without paper for up to 30 days. If the lender got hit by a bus or something, such a situation might occur.

              But still, a loan does not turn into a transfer if the lender should happen to die before the loaned object can be returned. The property still belongs to the lender's estate, and should be returned to the executor for disposal according to the will, or to the probate court which may be handling distribution for an intestate decedent.

              That is, "How does the buddy register the pistol?" is the wrong question; the pistol would not belong to the buddy such that registering it would be an issue.

              "Who's going to know?" is an entirely different question; that answer is 'the person who received the loan' and what action that may inspire in the lendee is up to his/her conscience.
              Last edited by Librarian; 03-16-2012, 5:42 PM.
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              • #8
                usedto
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 847

                If there is no family or no estate, this might be a good place to start:

                Rule #1 - The Boss Is Always Right
                Rule #2 - In The Event The Boss Is Wrong, Refer To Rule #1

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                • #9
                  The Gleam
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 12827

                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  "Who's going to know?" is an entirely different question; that answer is 'the person who received the loan' and what action that may inspire in the lendee is up to his/her conscience.
                  Exactly my answer even before getting past those first 4 words. Your conscience will know.

                  Librarian's got the right answer on this. Do things the right way.
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                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                  If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                  • #10
                    MossbergMan
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1255

                    What gun???
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