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  • maxicon
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4661

    Sig Mosquito range report

    I've taken my Mosquito out for the second time, and it's time for a range report. This one came from a calguns member, with 2 mags, 3 different front sights (including the one on the gun), and an extra recoil spring that was sent by Sig to the original owner when he complained about reliability (I'm not sure which spring is in the gun right now). It was pretty lightly used, with little to no signs of wear.

    The Mosquito is styled as a 3/4 size Sig, and is a good looking gun. It's got a plastic frame with a 3 slot rail under the barrel, and weighs 26.8 oz (760 gm) with 10 rounds of ammo.

    It has a safety, a decocker lever, and a mag block, which means it won't fire with the magazine out. When the mag's out and you pull the trigger, the hammer won't drop if it's cocked, and if it's uncocked, the hammer cams back but won't go all the way back and drop.

    The safety goes up for fire, and down for safe. When the safety's on, the gun acts like normal - when the trigger's pulled, the hammer will drop if cocked, or will cam back and drop if it's down. There's no way to tell that the safety is on by feel, and I had one time where I had it on and thought I was having failures to fire. On the third failure to fire, I stopped to look, and sure enough, the safety was on, with no primer dents in the rounds I had cycled out. I'd consider this a serious design flaw on a defensive gun, but it's not a problem on a .22.

    The sights are good, but not great - bright semi-fluorescent 3 dot sights that were easy enough to pick up in the range lighting, but weren't super precise. With the light behind me, the dots predominated, and made it harder for me to line up the sight edges. With the light at the front, it looked more like a traditional target sight.

    The Mosquito has a reputation for finickiness.

    The first time I took it out, it really upheld this, with a bunch of failures to feed, eject, and fire, and a few forward assists required to fully chamber the round, using a variety of ammo - Minimags, Remington Golden, Zappers, and SK Plus. All the failures to fire worked fine when fed through the second time. The lower energy ammo, like the Goldens and the SK Plus (target ammo) often either wouldn't extract the empty, would stovepipe, or would extract and eject but not load the next round or cock the hammer. The Minimags were best, and it definitely got better as it warmed up, with 60 Minimags in a row cycling with no problems at the end of the session. Total rounds - 250 for this session.

    The second time out, it had a ton of trouble with the first mag, loaded with Zappers (normally reliable in my .22 semi-autos), then the second mag was OK. After that, everything ran through pretty reliably, even the normally troublesome Remington Goldens. I didn't try the SK Plus, since they ran so poorly the first time and are a bit expensive. Minimags and Stingers ran flawlessly (and the Stingers had great muzzle flash!), and the Zappers had a few problems, but not many. It was a cold day, and it seemed like the gun needed a mag through it to warm it up and get it cycling well. Total rounds - 250 for this session.

    Shooting at 10 yards two-handed, the groups were all around 2.5-3" high, and went from 2" across with Minimags to 3" with most other ammo. I had forgotten about the high groups after the first session, and after the second one I put in the tallest of the 3 front sights, which hopefully will bring the POI down pretty close to the POA at 10 yards.

    At this point, I like it better than the Walther P22, but not as much as the Ruger MK512 bull barrel MKII. It's more fun to shoot than the Ruger, but not nearly as accurate.

    Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the performance. It's no target pistol, but is getting more reliable as I shoot it more, and it's got a good feel. Sig recommends cleaning the gun every 250 (!) rounds or every time the ammo type is changed (!!), but I just don't swing that way. Now that it's digesting a bigger variety of ammo, I'm going to keep on shooting it with an assortment of ammo until it starts jamming on the normally reliable stuff, then clean it and see how it does.

    Update 5/09:
    It still continues to be flakey about reliability. Sometimes it shoots 3-4 mags with no problems, other times it chokes every mag. I put the highest sight in, and it now shoots lower, and pretty close to POA. There's some peening showing up on the chamber where the firing pin falls - I don't dry fire it much, but whe it fails to feed, it's easy to drop the hammer on an empty chamber.





    ETA: Here's some info from another sight on Mosquito serial numbers and changes. I can't vouch for the accuracy, but it's another resource:



    Post date - 11/07

    The Mosquitoes have had the tolerances changed according to SIG, the feedramp has been improved and the springs have changed. (the older Mosquitoes have solid springs, and the newer guns have a small end on one side. -- small goes closest to the trigger, big toward the end of the barrel.)

    All of the Mosquitoes I've seen (in every configuration) have been "AO" serial numbered weapons (ETA: current reports indicate newer guns have an F0XXXX SN range).

    It is hard to tell on what date things started to change, but the most recent serial numbers coming out of SIG are the AO55-60K range.

    Just to place a time line on things:

    AO33000 were coming out as early as Sept 2006.
    AO35000 were seen around July 2007, but MANY are still leaving the factory.
    AO44000 were seen around Sept 2007
    AO55000 Are being seen 11/07.
    AO60000 Are being seen 11/07.

    ETA: The newest guns are reported to be F0XXXX serial numbers.

    Sports, TB's, B's, TT's and RTT's all fall into the same serial number ranges.

    I've seen Sports in the AO55000 Range, and seen a Threaded Barrel model only a dozen serial numbers off.

    Basically, Ask the dealer how long he's had the weapon in stock for, and he should be able to tell you if the weapon was sitting for a few months.

    I'd probably stick to the 44-55K Serial number ranges for safety, but like I said previously, SIG is still pumping out Two Tones and Reverse Two Tones in the 35K serial ranges, and those weapons work well according to customers. (perhaps they've had work done)

    SIG also claims that the longer barrels on the TB and Sport Models cause more back pressure and help to cycle the weapon. (I guess it makes sense)
    Last edited by maxicon; 05-15-2009, 8:59 AM.
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  • #2
    4D5auto
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 706

    These guns are tested at the factory with the Minimag, this must now be why they make that claim in the manual. Evidently, the Minimag must function the best.. I' just picked up a Two-Tone, but haven't had the time to play with it yet...

    Good write up!
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    • #3
      savasyn
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 3201

      Thanks for the write up. I'm so bummed this gun doesn't perform in the same league at the regular Sigs. It was my first choice when I was looking for a .22 auto a little bit ago, but after reading all the problems they have, I passed.

      Good luck with the future testing!

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      • #4
        What Just Happened?
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 2504

        CCI Minimags and Fiocchi HVCRN rounds were the only ones that would reliably feed and extract in my Mosquito.

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        • #5
          foolthomas
          Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 103

          yes yes, the mini mags are the best for this pistol. if you are having failures while using this ammo then you might have got a lemon. i got one of the first when they came out. after shooting about 600 rounds of the mini mag through it it started to break in. i could shoot regular federal or remington with almost no failures. also the faster i shot the gun the less it jammed (just info, not a suggestion). note that i don't recall a single jam with the cci mini mags.

          anyone have any good feedback on the kimber 1911's (especially the super rimfire)? still looking for a .22 that feels like a combat pistol.

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          • #6
            bobfried
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 1448

            You need to put about 2,000 rounds of Mini-Mags through it to break it in. That sounds like alot but it is not for this pistol. After that it'll eat everything flawlessly. I sold mine awhile back as I could not justify keeping it and buying a 22/45. Of course if one came up for sale now at a reasonable price I'd be all over it.

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            • #7
              icoburn
              Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 309

              Great range report.

              I attended a Bruce Gray class in San Diego last weekend and had the pleasure of shooting a Mosquito that they had worked-over. The trigger and action job was amazing. It was super smooth to shoot and allegedly greatly improved on reliability. I plan to ship my wifes mosquito off to them to clean it up.

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              • #8
                4D5auto
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 706

                Originally posted by icoburn
                Great range report.

                I attended a Bruce Gray class in San Diego last weekend and had the pleasure of shooting a Mosquito that they had worked-over. The trigger and action job was amazing. It was super smooth to shoot and allegedly greatly improved on reliability. I plan to ship my wifes mosquito off to them to clean it up.
                Where is this place you speak of???
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                • #9
                  duenor
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 4617

                  +1 on the 2,000 rounds to break in.
                  Even then it will not anywhere in the same league as the p22- series. But to be fair it was designed for training and plinking, not defensive use.

                  If you buy one of these know in advance that you are paying $150 for the gun, and the rest of the money is so that you can get a gun that has about the same manual of arms as the P22- series (except for that retarded safety, and the even more retarded magazine disconnect).

                  Pay no more than $300 for one. Expect no more than fist sized groupings at 10 yards. Run nothing but CCI Minimag through it.

                  I sent it back at 400 rounds to SIG complaining of reliability issues (which it had indeed). The only thing the armorer did (and I have the letter) is fire 60 rounds of CCI minimag through it. He claimed in his letter that the problem never came back. BS - I had frequent, irritating failures all the way up to round #1600. now it is almost acceptable in terms of failures.

                  SIG knows they screwed up with the mosquito, and that they can't afford to admit that they are basically selling a $400 popgun. If I could do it all over again, I'd get the SIG Trailside.
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                  • #10
                    4D5auto
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 706

                    When you got yours, did you run CCI thru- it?? That was likely your problem..


                    Reminds me of my Tec-22, unless you feed it Viper ammo, you may as well throw the gun at it!
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                    • #11
                      maxicon
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 4661

                      I don't know how many rounds this one had before I got it, but once it warmed up, it shot Remington Golden almost as well as Minimags and Stingers. The first time out, it choked a lot on Minimags, but seems to be improving fairly quickly, so maybe I'm out there on the edge of the break-in cliff.
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                      • #12
                        Black Majik
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 9695

                        Originally posted by 4D5auto
                        Where is this place you speak of???
                        You can find the work of Bruce, Scott and Torie over at Grayguns.

                        Grayguns, the premiere after-market parts & service provider for SIG and HK pistols. Be it competition or carry, Bruce Gray offers 40+ years of experience.

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                        • #13
                          4D5auto
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 706

                          Played with mine for the first time yesterday. Only put about 150 rounds thru- her and had about a half dozen fail to feed and extract. I was using CCI. She is a nice little gun that would be fun if not for some issues. Time will tell with more ammo put in her. Think I will tinker with it for more reliability in the future

                          Side note:

                          Sig makes a quality weapon, always has, but I think they missed the mark a little with the Mosquito. This is unfortunate because this little plinker could and would be more of a joy to shoot. The safety could have used a little better thought and the feed issues should have been worked out before it's release.. IMO, I don't care how much you spend on a weapon, it should always be reliable out of the box!! Ergonomics are on the $$ for this one, a much better feeling gun over the Walther!.
                          Last edited by 4D5auto; 12-16-2007, 10:02 AM.
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                          • #14
                            4D5auto
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 706

                            Originally posted by Black Majik
                            You can find the work of Bruce, Scott and Torie over at Grayguns.

                            http://www.grayguns.com


                            Thanks
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                            • #15
                              smle-man
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10584

                              Originally posted by duenor
                              +1 on the 2,000 rounds to break in.
                              Even then it will not anywhere in the same league as the p22- series. But to be fair it was designed for training and plinking, not defensive use.

                              If you buy one of these know in advance that you are paying $150 for the gun, and the rest of the money is so that you can get a gun that has about the same manual of arms as the P22- series (except for that retarded safety, and the even more retarded magazine disconnect).

                              Pay no more than $300 for one. Expect no more than fist sized groupings at 10 yards. Run nothing but CCI Minimag through it.

                              I sent it back at 400 rounds to SIG complaining of reliability issues (which it had indeed). The only thing the armorer did (and I have the letter) is fire 60 rounds of CCI minimag through it. He claimed in his letter that the problem never came back. BS - I had frequent, irritating failures all the way up to round #1600. now it is almost acceptable in terms of failures.

                              SIG knows they screwed up with the mosquito, and that they can't afford to admit that they are basically selling a $400 popgun. If I could do it all over again, I'd get the SIG Trailside.

                              Guess this is why there are so many Mosquitos for sale on this forum. I bought the Trailside dispite several people telling me that it was 'junk' made with plastic parts and it was going to break my first time out. I'm up to 800 rds now. It is amazingly accurate and the trigger pull is target grade. Works like a charm. Glad I bought one.

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