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  • AWARCORP
    • Sep 2010
    • 265

    SA 1911 FULL SIZE EJECTION PROBLEM

  • #2
    t0kie
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 3419

    Check the extractor, could be the culprit (may be broken or improperly tuned).

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    • #3
      AWARCORP
      • Sep 2010
      • 265

      how does one tune an extractor? thanks

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      • #4
        hornswaggled
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 1650

        Remove the slide from the pistol. Try pushing a snap cap or empty case under the extractor hook along the breech face where it would sit when ready to fire. If the extractor holds the rim of the cartridge nice and steady, the extractor is probably fine.
        sigpicNRA Endowment Member
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        • #5
          t0kie
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 3419

          Originally posted by AWARCORP
          how does one tune an extractor? thanks
          I think that's something that a gunsmith is really needed. (I won't do it myself)

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          • #6
            AWARCORP
            • Sep 2010
            • 265

            This is good advice guys. I will try it first thing tomorrow and report back, thank you Hornswaggled and t0kie, much appreciated.

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            • #7
              jeffrice6
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2006
              • 5165

              Its SA, send her home!
              WTB: S&W 617 4" 10 shot Pre-Lock

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              • #8
                modls7
                Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 414

                Are you saying the empty casing stays in the chamber (never even briefly leaves) and the slide then returns to battery this way?

                Your recoil spring is probably fine.

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                • #9
                  AWARCORP
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 265

                  - The slide is closed in full battery
                  - Put a magazine in
                  - Pull the slide back to chamber the round
                  - Pull trigger, gun fires, slide does not move back at all so shell does not extract
                  - Release magazine or the slide wont come back
                  - Once magazine is out, the slide will roll back and the shell casing comes out

                  Weird right?

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                  • #10
                    Arias
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 295

                    Originally posted by jeffrice6
                    Its SA, send her home!
                    This ^

                    SA has a great lifetime warranty. I'd call and take em' up on it

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                    • #11
                      c3 rolling
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 726

                      Heres a vid on tuning the extractor, takes 2 minutes.

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                      • #12
                        AeroEngi
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 2887

                        Originally posted by c3 rolling
                        Heres a vid on tuning the extractor, takes 2 minutes.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENFoZPF2-FM
                        It doesn't sound like an extractor issue. He's saying that the slide doesn't even move back after taking a shot. The only way he can cycle the slide is if he removes the magazine. Kinda weird actually, I've never heard of it.

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                        • #13
                          walmart_ar15
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2327

                          Originally posted by AWARCORP
                          - The slide is closed in full battery
                          - Put a magazine in
                          - Pull the slide back to chamber the round
                          - Pull trigger, gun fires, slide does not move back at all so shell does not extract
                          - Release magazine or the slide wont come back
                          - Once magazine is out, the slide will roll back and the shell casing comes out

                          Weird right?
                          roll back? On its own?

                          Does it happen when firing the last shot in the mag? Or after the last shot, the slide cycles and slide locks back?

                          Likely issue is around the magazine. If last shot cycles normally, then it may be because the next round is jammed against the slide/empty case thus preventing proper cycle. Is the mag for some reason sitting higher now in the frame then before?

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                          • #14
                            himurax13
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 3895

                            Well it doesn't sound like the recoil spring is the culprit if you have not replaced it recently.

                            How do you know it is not the ammo?

                            Do you have a picture of the magazine fully loaded? The feed lips could be bent or cracked. I break 1911 magazines all of the time.

                            Are you sure you installed the slide stop through the barrel link the last time you cleaned it?
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                            • #15
                              redcliff
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5676

                              Some problems are almost impossible to diagnose by descripton. This seems like one of them.

                              Field strip the pistol and give everything a good visual inspection. Check the recoil spring guide rod for straightness; recoil springs should be changed every 2-2.5k rounds depending upon 1911 variant and failure to do so can cause guide rod damage. Check that your ejector isn't loose; you probably have a loctited ejector with no pin to retain it; they occasionaly come loose. Check your magazines for cracks and spread feed lips.

                              And say good-bye to your pistol for a while since I see a trip to Springfield Armory in its future.
                              "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                              "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                              "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                              "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                              although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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